Need help identifying what these are? They have k1000 horns and 2r crossovers.

[Marvel]

On 2/9/2023 at 11:42 AM, OO1 said:

The  tweeter-midrange drivers and horns , woofers , crossovers are  klipsch  Parts  ,   the Woofer EV SP12B    16 Ohms  /K-22 was used in the early 60's  in the   H series 

 

The SP12 series were coaxial speaker.

 

The cabinet is VERY similar to the EV KD6 Aristocrat back loaded horn shown in the attached pdf. The EV design had the back corners angled to fit into corners.

 

 

KD6 DIY Booklet.pdf

[billybob]

True...

[YK Thom]

They were very thorough with the plans. Very nice indeed.

[OO1]

yeah

[vmags]

2 hours ago, Marvel said:

 

The SP12 series were coaxial speaker.

 

The cabinet is VERY similar to the EV KD6 Aristocrat back loaded horn shown in the attached pdf. The EV design had the back corners angled to fit into corners.

 

 

KD6 DIY Booklet.pdf 1.96 MB · 4 downloads

I see similarities but I also see more differences than similarities.   

 

 

[YK Thom]

With any luck someone will recognize them. Some serious Klipsch hardware inside them.

[vmags]

So I finally found reference of 2R crossovers that are in my speakers.    Now I am wondering if my speakers are actually cornwalls or shorthorns instead of Hersey.  They are also larger than the Hersey I have owned in the past. I have all the same components except I have the EV 12 inch SP12 woofers instead of 15 inch that are in this post:   https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads%2Fcornwall-ii-from-1968.119978%2F&fbclid=IwAR1B4PvkINBZmJE5E4bdQatc94-clKa578TzPDZEr0tstq0MK9aejhpvJW4

 

 

Bob Crites commented this:

 

Really hoping Jim responds with more insight on my speakers.

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by vmags
Typo correction

[vmags]

I guess this is looking like a dead end. 

 

The 2R crossovers are leading me to think these are a kit build shorthorn.    Guess I may never known. Lol

[OO1]

On 3/5/2023 at 1:58 AM, vmags said:

I guess this is looking like a dead end. 

 

The 2R crossovers are leading me to think these are a kit build shorthorn.    Guess I may never known. Lol

 it's very hard to pinpoint the parts from  1 speaker to a custom cabinet  , because back in those days , you could buy parts from klipsch and make your own set of speakers 

 

1st  possibility........ parts were purchased from klipsch to build a custom speaker using   genuine klipsch parts , the 2R crossover was used in 12 inch and 15 inch cabinets . the rest of the parts were mostly used on  the H-700   .

 

I would rule out the Shorthorn  because of the SP-12 Cast woofer  .

 

2nd possibility is   parts were swapped from  2  sets of  klipsch speakers .the  H-700  and  Cornwall II Vertical speaker 

- the woofer-midrange driver and k-1000 horn + the tweeter are from the   H-700  1967-68  .

-the crossover 2R  is from a 1967-68 Cornwall II  ( Vertical  )  . 

[vmags]

20 hours ago, OO1 said:

 it's very hard to pinpoint the parts from  1 speaker to a custom cabinet  , because back in those days , you could buy parts from klipsch and make your own set of speakers 

 

1st  possibility........ parts were purchased from klipsch to build a custom speaker using   genuine klipsch parts , the 2R crossover was used in 12 inch and 15 inch cabinets . the rest of the parts were mostly used on  the H-700   .

 

I would rule out the Shorthorn  because of the SP-12 Cast woofer  .

 

2nd possibility is   parts were swapped from  2  sets of  klipsch speakers .the  H-700  and  Cornwall II Vertical speaker 

- the woofer-midrange driver and k-1000 horn + the tweeter are from the   H-700  1967-68  .

-the crossover 2R  is from a 1967-68 Cornwall II  ( Vertical  )  . 

Thanks for the ideas.   I was under the impression that shorthorn or a shorthorn kit could be ordered with the 12 inch electro voice sp-12 drivers???

[OO1]

On 3/7/2023 at 7:08 PM, vmags said:

Thanks for the ideas.   I was under the impression that shorthorn or a shorthorn kit could be ordered with the 12 inch electro voice sp-12 drivers???

Correct   , but this would refer to an SP 12 steel basket versus the SP 12 Cast woofer .

 

I've never seen a Shorthorn with a  Cast metal  SP 12  woofer , these were mostly seen on the Model H  1957-67 or the H-700 from  1967 through 1972  and the Heresy starting  in 1973 through 1975     ,  same thing for the Alnico k-77 with the Golden painted  cover, the Shorthorn k-77 had a grey or burgundy cast cover .

 

That's why I am assuming that the parts of your Speakers were purchased between 1957 and 72  , the Heresy came out in 72-73  with the K-700 metal horn whereas you have the k-1000 metal horn which was also used on the 1957-67 Model H and the 67-72  H-700  ,

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most Shorthorns  I've seen were equipped with the steel basket SP 12 series woofers , the K-55V , K-1000 horn and the  grey or burgundy cast cover k-77

 

[vmags]

2 hours ago, OO1 said:

Correct   , but this would refer to an SP 12 steel basket versus the SP 12 Cast woofer .

 

I've never seen a Shorthorn with a  Cast metal  SP 12  woofer , these were mostly seen on the H-700 from  1967 through 1972  and the Heresy starting  in 1973 through 1975     ,  same thing for the Alnico k-77 with the Golden painted  cover, the Shorthorn k-77 had a grey cast cover .

 

That's why I am assuming that the parts of your Speakers were purchased between 1967 and 72  , the Heresy came out in 72-73  with the K-700 metal horn whereas you have the k-1000 metal horn which was also used on the 1967-72  H-700  ,

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most Shorthorns  I've seen were equipped with the steel basket SP 12 series woofers , the K-55V , K-1000 horn and the  grey cast cover k-77

 

Man you know a LOT!!!  Do you feel this serial/decal style on my SB12 also dates 1976-72?

 

[OO1]

22 hours ago, vmags said:

 Do you feel this serial/decal style on my SB12 also dates 1967-72?

 ...the K-22  EV  SP-12B  serial # 1817 + the K-77 serial no 2600  +  the K55V serial no 3619 + the network 2R are circa  1964  or at the very latest  ,  early 1965  - the donor speaker could be a klipsch Model H   ( 1957 -1967 )  if the parts were not sold separately by klipsch  .