AnalOg Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Picked up a pair of 84 La Scalas, can't wait to pick them up, hook them up, crank them up & see what all the fuss is about! Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Did you get the LaScala "equalizer" with the purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 DeanG you are so evil! Did you get your RF-7 super-duper crossover issue solved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 I'ze just razzin o'le Tom, and taking a stab at Craig too boot :~) I'm sure with those LaScalas will sound dynamite with the MK III's. Tom, with you're listening room, you may have to break down and get some acoustic tile going. I think you may end up fighting excessive midrange energy -- and don't forget the rope caulk! RF-7 crossovers -- uhg. Yeah, it's solved. To be "perfect" I need to revert back to an inductor on the bass that uses the original DCR value. I think John Warren was right, and Klipsch used the DCR of the inductor to tweak the Qts of the woofers to the get the proper box/driver/port alignment. Trey doesn't think my change should be all that audible, but it is! DJK told me I increased the woofer output by 1.27 db -- and it's definitely audible. To use the present inductors, I would need to increase box size (or remove all the baffling -- or two liters worth), and increase my port lengths. I haven't figured out the exact length yet -- I've got some wiz kids helping me out. Whether I do it or not remains to be seen. I'm sure I'll cave and just change the inductor back. I might even put the Solen back in I was using, which really did sound very good. Just a slight drop in DCR seems to be a good thing -- a radical drop really mucks things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Dean, Some of us like to hear all the music so we prefer honest speakers. Then there are those that like that Flat lifeless sound !! I wonder who that would be ? Tom, I got you now after you have listened to them for a few weeks send me your Mark III and for a few bucks I;ll put the massive Lascala tweaks on them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Well now, that would be me! I just luuuv that flat lifeless sound. Hell, it's so flat now I could roll a marble across the frequency response curve without a hiccup. Now, what's that about "honest" speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 No not flat frequency response !! Its just plan Flat !! Oh and what did you measure this supposed flat response with ???? Just as I thought nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalOg Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 "for a few bucks I;ll put the massive Lascala tweaks on them !" Man, quit teasing me. It's not fair, everytime I think I'm done, you suck me back in. Your worse then a dope dealer, in a good way!! Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Trust me Dope dealers make way more than me LOL !!!!! But I have more fun setting the hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalOg Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 "Tom, with you're listening room, you may have to break down and get some acoustic tile going. I think you may end up fighting excessive midrange energy -- and don't forget the rope caulk!" With my current setup, although everything is bare in my basement, I think I'm experienceing great acoustics. This could be due to the fact that the room is so BIG (1700sqft.). The La Scalas should really fill it up with some serious response. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Hey, how come you're allowed to know what flat sounds like and I don't. I uze maa radyo shac noize lowdness meeter an stareofile test disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 LMAO !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Tom, The Lascala's and those Mark III's will over come any room acoustic problems don't worry about it. I would invest in some carpet though at least a very large throw rug. If it was me I would setup a near field listening setup in a 10 to 12' triangle start with the Lascala's point just outside your ears at the sweet spot and play with toe in and out. Pull then about 12" to 16" off the back wall. I have cabinets and a work bench between mine with 4' fake walls boxing them in and it really seems to help them reach lower. I can turn my KSW-15 on near full blast with the crossover at 60hz and not even hear the difference at all with 90% of the music I listen too so I just don't use the sub.The KSW-15 reach to 26 I believe so I really think 99% of music just doesn't go much under 45hz. I think my lascalas with the Bench and being in little cubby holes like there are reach to 45 hz easy. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalOg Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 As it stands now, I do have a 15X15 piece of carpet setup in my listening area. I have my setup in the corner of the basement. One side I created a false wall to "contain" low end sound, this seemed to work out pretty well, my sweet spot is about fifteen feet back and the speakers are about twelve feet apart. I would like to put insulation in the floor joists above the listening area at some time in the near future. I think this will tone a bit of the liveliness down, but honestly, it hasn't been an issue as of yet. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 A simple clap test should tell you how that big basement really sounds, with the equipment you have, bet you really love those big old horns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Tom, Someone, not sure who it was told me open floor joists were actually good for the sound . You should see the heat runs 6' in front of my speakers Maybe Dean said that so you better disregard it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksdad Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 i just looked over your list of gear, nice, 1 word of advice hold onto your socks, you just entered a new realm, congrats and enjoy, you will really see the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edster00 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Congratulations on your LaScalas, you are in for a real treat! Which amp(s) are you going to hook them up to first?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalOg Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 The Dynaco's for sure!! Thankx, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 ---------------- On 6/25/2003 9:04:03 AM rf3iicrazy wrote: Picked up a pair of 84 La Scalas, can't wait to pick them up, hook them up, crank them up & see what all the fuss is about! Tom ---------------- Tom, you are going to love these. Of course, at some point you'll realize that your life would be complete if you only had some of Al K's ALK networks. You could build them yourself from the schematic he has so kindly placed on his site. '84... Yes, that was a very good year. Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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