Daddy Dee Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Well, have been on the phone with the good people in the Klipsch parts department. Asked to clarify the cost for the Klipschorn upgrade, which amounts to three new parts: tweeter, mid-driver, and crossover. $900 (aprox) EACH. So it would cost $1800 to upgrade a pair of Klipschorns or LaScalas. I suppose it was just my wishful thinking that made me think the price for a pair was only $900. Also, and I'm scratching my head on this one, the K-505 horn lens for Belle is $137 ea. The price on the K-401 horn lense for LaScala or Khorn is $49 ea. Go figure, but it is a fabulous price for the K-401. I am pretty sure that a year ago they quoted me a $200 ea. price on the K-401. Greg is one of the guys in parts I've talked to a couple of times. Very decent guy, knows his stuff and good to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 It's about time I'm right about something around here. Score Dean = 1 Everyone else = 758 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Lord that scared me! I rushed in thinking that Dean might have been right with something concerning amplification! Lo and behold, it's only speakers... heh. Boy, did that frighten me. Ole Deano. Loon. kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah, I don't think anyone needs to worry about me becoming an amplifier "expert". But hey, I have learned several different ways to have the sh!t shocked out of me, and that's gotta count for something. Yeah baby, loving that old dirty gritty pentode sound. Bring on the grunge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 I've been overdosing on vintage integrateds the last three days with a bit of respite with the Moondogs while out in the main room. It's been interesting and I havent even dragged the beasts into the CW room! I about lost my eyesight trying to compare the 10000 samples of Scott 299 in existance! Lord, I have TOO many pictures on my HD! kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggy Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Probably a supply/demand thing on the 505. They probably are not too much in demand so the price is higher. Just a guess. BTW I dampened my K500's in my Belles with dynamatt but ended up takeing it off as I liked the sound better without it. I'm a drum freak guess and like the sound of drums much better undampened. hoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 ---------------- On 1/30/2004 6:41:47 PM hoggy wrote: Probably a supply/demand thing on the 505. They probably are not too much in demand so the price is higher. Just a guess. BTW I dampened my K500's in my Belles with dynamatt but ended up takeing it off as I liked the sound better without it. I'm a drum freak guess and like the sound of drums much better undampened. hoggy ---------------- Yep, I think I was surprised at the difference the dynamat made. When I first did it, I was thinking I'd lost too much, but got used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Due to the limited production rate for the Belle, the K-505 horn is produced by a different process than the others. It is more expensive per unit, but has vastly lower tooling cost. I noticed the difference during the trip to Indy and ask. Ay $50 each, I need to find an excuse to buy some K-401s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 31, 2004 Author Share Posted January 31, 2004 ---------------- On 1/30/2004 9:31:26 PM John Albright wrote: Due to the limited production rate for the Belle, the K-505 horn is produced by a different process than the others. It is more expensive per unit, but has vastly lower tooling cost. I noticed the difference during the trip to Indy and ask. Ay $50 each, I need to find an excuse to buy some K-401s! ---------------- Thanks for the info John. excuse to buy some 401's indeed. I was thinking of the 505's for a Heresy on Steroids project, inspired by Al K. But, don't know what I'll do for mid horns now. 401's are the right price o.k., but will have to think of a different name for that! Maybe "Heresy AFTER YEARS ON Steroids". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I just wanted to see this topic back at the top -- man I love the title of this topic. Can't we just keep at the top all of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Bump...so you can toot your own horn again, Dean! Modesty is not one of your stronger suits, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Oh our Dean - I thought you must mean the Democratic candidate. On the other hand I dont know which is the more likely.... You wouldnt catch me running overpriced English PP tubes. Cheap Greek ones maybe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Max, Your mind must be in the gutter. I bet you are the only person on the forum who looked at that post title and thought of Howard Dean. BTW, I'd sure like to have a wave file of his screech in Iowa. Thought it was kinda cute. It would make a nice option to add in to my windows sound files. Maybe a good alternate for system error. Edit: p.s. well maybe it was because you couldn't imagine our Dean and "right" being used in the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 DD, Your edit is correct. Not, I might add because I cant imagine Dean being right on something but because his views go against the "accepted view" on amplification on this forum, as Kelly commented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 DaddyDee, If you go to http://home.comcast.net/~cozdemir226/ there are enough remixes there of Howard Dean's scream speech to keep you busy all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 "...his views go against the "accepted view" on amplification on this forum..." Sure about this? Should we take a poll? Since PP owners, in both SS and tube, probably outnumber the SET users 100 to 1 -- you might want to rethink what the "accepted view" on this forum is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I'm not sure what Max meant on this either. There are clearly at least three camps on this forum: PP, SET, and SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dean and Paul, agreed - but the SET amp owners are rather more vocal. 100:1 - that I am no sure about, 5:1 maybe - on the 2 channel forum. you want a poll - have a poll - prove me wrong. FWIW - I am as into the PP camp as you guys are with my only reservation being that I am yet to hear a good SET amp for any period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 For every 1 person that posts, that are 3 that "lurk" and just hang out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Push pull and SS are at least 100 to 1 over SET there are only a handful of SET owners on this forum. But like mentioned earlier there are very vocal and present ! I have at least 200 PP amps being used by forum members. Many of these people refrain from posting ! Now if you want to talk highly active poster the ratio drops dramatically. Craig DEAN HAS NEVER BEEN RIGHT IN HIS LIFE !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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