Champagne taste beer budget Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Why is it that women can be so tolerant/accepting of their vehicle doing odd things until it gets to point of "Oh My God, I'm scared to drive it!" before they mention there is a problem in the first place? Last night at supper, my wife casually mentioned that her 99 Jimmy was making some noises, had been for a while, it had gotten to the point that she was worried about it's dependability, and that I should take it for a drive. Not a good drive. I have it at the shop today, while I'm supposed to be at home moving furniture/stuff before the house gets razed in a month for new construction. Got here, found front tires both had ply seperations, back one had one a couple months ago, so a 20 mile run one way for new tires, then come back and mount/balance em. $304, free labor. Should have been $400. While I have em off, see the front pads are almost down to metal, new pads and turned rotors, had some vibration with brakes applied, which she never mentioned. $21 cost, free labor. Should have been $140. Went for a test drive after above completed, have a noise from the transfer case, sounds like a ball bearing rolling around in the chain. Drained the case, new fluid, no change in noise. $18 cost, free labor. Should have been $65.00 Looks like the T/C will be coming apart soon for inspection, God only knows what's up inside there, but ANY internal parts carry a high price tag, regardless of the free labor. WHY is it that women can let things get so far out of hand before they mention a problem? Not that there aren't men that do the same, I'm sure, but this strikes home to me because she knows better, or at least she talks like she does!! Just venting here, I'll be ok in a day or three. I think I need a Makers Mark on the rocks and some DSOTM to settle my nerves. Then another Makers Mark. Or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelerFan Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Bet if something had gone wrong with the vanity mirror you would have heard about it in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 "Bet if something had gone wrong with the vanity mirror you would have heard about it in a hurry." DAMN RIGHT,the vanity mirror must be THE focal piece in a car for a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 ---------------- On 4/10/2004 5:56:02 PM TheEAR wrote: "Bet if something had gone wrong with the vanity mirror you would have heard about it in a hurry." DAMN RIGHT,the vanity mirror must be THE focal piece in a car for a woman. ---------------- How could they make up without the vanity? Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I can't speak for the rest of my gender... BUT...I HATE CARS! In my view they are a necessary evil. I can't hardly view them as an investment, since they depreciate in value the minute that I drive them off the lot. And then there is that fact that after the first time that I wreck them, they aren't worth squat. However; I try to be dilligent with the care and feeding, with oil changes, fluid checks, tire rotatations, and monitor critical items like brakes, clutch, steering etc. On the other hand, when I hear those new little noises, the hums and the vibrations, I usually just crank up the stereo. Right now, I get this funny noise when I'm idling. I'm hoping it is just the doo-hicky that holds up the hood rattling away. In the meantime, I'm just waiting for it to GO AWAY. Realistically, I'm sure that it probably will, and not under the best of circumstances. I should really bite the bullet, and inconvience my friends to help me do the drop-off/pick-up thing at the shop. In the meantime, I think that I will just tape that doo-hicky down and hope the noise goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 99 Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Lets see now !!! 1999 jimmy, average milage is 20k per year times that by 5 years were at 100k . Did you not stop to think maybe it was about time for some TLC ? are you one of those guys that waits for things to fly apart before taking any action ? Tires getting to the point of showing chords ?????????? Your just as much to blame as her for not checking there condition every month. Do you also leave it up to the wife to change the oil ??? Ever read that tinny liitle book that sits in the glove box ? They call it the owners manual , intresting enough it does tell even the dumbest male what to have checked at what milage. You guys all stand around and scratch your balls and kick your tires at the local 7-11 but few of you really have a clue how to fix or maintain anything on a automobile. Just because your a man does'nt mean you were born with the ability to repair a vehicle, it's not your god given right you know. I'm a welder by trade and working on my pipefitting ticket as we speak, my uncle who raised me ( my mom and dad died in a car crash when i was very young) was a service manager at a general moters dealership. I learned how to plug and or patch a tire before i started into make-up. You want to test you mechanical knowledge against a woman go ahead and throw out your questions , i'll reply with my own and we'll see who know what about fixing and or repairing a vehicle , i put myself through college working in a garage . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Way to go agent 99! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 My gilrfriend is always harping on me that her 91 civic is making noises, and idling funny, etc, etc. I had just finished changing the timing belt a couple of weeks ago, and went to fill up the levels. Checked the coolant reservoir bottle - empty, and kind of murky looking. Opened the radiator cap, and saw a black oily mess. The rubber seal on the rad cap looked like a swolen beef tongue. Nice. So, I ordered up a cylinder head gasket, camshaft seal, and valve stem seals. Got another head from the local scrapyard where you remove your own parts. Dropped the used head at the cylinder head shop for hot tank, check for cracks, resurfacing, grinding the valves and reface the seats. Turns out the used head that I dropped off had the cam journals wiped in the head. At some time before the car ended up in the yard, it had been run without oil. What would have been a one day swap turned into a couple day job, as I had to bring in the head off the car to the cylinder head shop. Sunday night, I dissasembled it in my brother's shop an hour away, and got a ride back to the city. Dropped it off monday morning, and had it back tuesday afternoon. Tuesday evening around 7 pm, I started cleaning parts, and installed the head. At 3 am I called it quits for the day. Wednesday I finished setting the valves, installed the valve cover and went for a ride, without the hood on. I had forgotten to install the rubber plug over the tensioner hole in the timing cover, and it flew off the apron god knows where. It idled smooth and ran fairly decent, except that it felt like it was down on power. I advanced the timing some, all this did was bring on pre-ignition. So, I backed the timing down again, and was checking out a few more items on the car, with it running. Noticing a rattling noise from the exhaust, I reached under with my boot and give the muffler a kick. I was rewarded with the sound of loose parts rattling around inside. From the looks of the case, you would swear that it was just installed. Oh well, now it needs a muffler. Hopefully that will cure it's ails. I guess I shouldn't complain, it has 321,000 kms on the odometer, and it has been good to me since I put it on the road a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Geewillicans! Imagine a "Cluless/Agent 99 Repair Shoppe"... where you got serviced more even if you cared less! What self-respecting-duh-respecting-duh-respecting record stuck, ball bearing male-strom would check his Heritage Klipsch fliver into a non-sexist Audio Repair Shoppe? Hmm, since I met and will soon marry the "Swiss Miss" of my heart's desire... and she stepped in for the maintenance man who left without notice... and ferreted out his mistakes... I'm ready to drive my six Khorns into the "Cluless Agent 99 Repair Shoppe and Model Tea Room." -HornEd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I dont worry about women fixing their vehicles. I worry about women DRIVING their vehicles!!! And another one gone, and another one gone Another one bites the dust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I check my oil about every 300-500 miles, and I use synthetic (Mobil 1 5w30), and change it every 3,000 (they say 5,000 with synthetic is OK, but I do drive my car somewhat hard) - figure, a new 1MZ-FE engine (V6 Toyota engine) is probably $3,000 or more, so it is not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Yo! BBB! You of all people should know that the only way I would ever run down a Wascally Wabbit such as you, WOULD BE WITH OUTMOST DELIBERATION! As we speak I'm working on a fine new recipe for Wabbit in Wine Cassolet. Wabbit With Fines Herbs, White Wabbit ala Grace Slick Shroom Sauce...and the Piece de resistance...Frankencake with miniature wabbit sculptures. So watch where those lucky feet land... Or you could be my next hood ornament/entree.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Agent99- Nice going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cluless Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 I wonder which of these goes best with egg salad. Bunny Food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Champagne- Women are more worried about relationships and togetherness than mechanical or statistical things. See the book from Dr. Deborah Tannen "You Just Don't Understand: Women and Men in Conversation". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Yum... where can I find that autobahntastic "Wabbit & Whine Cluless Cassolet" recipe? -HornEd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagne taste beer budget Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 On 4/10/2004 11:34:50 PM Agent 99 wrote: Lets see now !!! 1999 jimmy, average milage is 20k per year times that by 5 years were at 100k . Did you not stop to think maybe it was about time for some TLC ? are you one of those guys that waits for things to fly apart before taking any action ? Actually, it has 59K on it, it doesn't get a lot of highway miles and she only lives 6 miles from her office. I just don't drive it that often, so rely on her to let me know when things start going south. Tires getting to the point of showing chords ?????????? Your just as much to blame as her for not checking there condition every month. Who said anything about cords showing? I believe I said it had a ply seperation in both fronts, which is considerably different from being worn down to the cords. BTY, they were rotated 3K ago and showed no sign of this problem at that time. Do you also leave it up to the wife to change the oil ??? She does NOTHING to her vehicles, other than add gas, and is happy about that, She loves to tell others that she sleeps with her warranty! Ever read that tinny liitle book that sits in the glove box ? They call it the owners manual , intresting enough it does tell even the dumbest male what to have checked at what milage. Yeah, though of course they extend some of the intervals out to crazy lengths as a selling point. You'd be surprised how many $2-300 plug wire sets get replaced because they have become one with the porcelin on the plug by the time they get to the 100K recommended replacement interval. Or how many $400 fuel pumps get replaced because it's been working overtime for thousands of miles trying to push through a plugged fuel filter, which some manufactures have conviently taken out of the recommended maintenance schedule. You guys all stand around and scratch your balls and kick your tires at the local 7-11 but few of you really have a clue how to fix or maintain anything on a automobile. Just because your a man does'nt mean you were born with the ability to repair a vehicle, it's not your god given right you know. Well, I can't speak for the other male members of the board (no pun intended), but I have owned a 9 bay auto and truck repair shop for almost 6 years, and have been working on vehicles to pay my bills for 25+ years. Before opening here, I was also at a GM dealership, and when I left, was their highest trained tech out of 16 and the Cadillac electronics specialist. Did you know that in 1998, a fully optioned Seville would have 22 different computers on it? And they haven't gotten any better since. I'm a welder by trade and working on my pipefitting ticket as we speak, my uncle who raised me ( my mom and dad died in a car crash when i was very young) was a service manager at a general moters dealership. I learned how to plug and or patch a tire before i started into make-up. You want to test you mechanical knowledge against a woman go ahead and throw out your questions , i'll reply with my own and we'll see who know what about fixing and or repairing a vehicle , i put myself through college working in a garage . I've known and worked with several women techs over the years, and like any business, it's not the sex, but the knowledge upstairs that seperates the good from the bad. I did add a disclaimer at the end of my original post that there are men who are just as bad as some women, but that my wife knows better, she can rattle off info about injectors, EGR valves, brake parts, etc. as good as most shadetree mechanics just because she has listened to me talk about them for 12 years. If you're ever in the Northern Minnesota area, I'd love for ya to stop by and swap war stories, buy ya a cup of coffee or a beer, and grab a couple scopes and see who can be the first to pick up a dropping out 24X sync signal on a crank sensor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerFan Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 ---------------- On 4/10/2004 6:13:09 PM IB Slammin wrote: How could they make up without the vanity? Terry ---------------- Here in FL they just use the rearview mirror...while traveling down US19 at 60mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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