shload Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I have my little used Record Doctor II on Ebay for anybody that is interested. 3091943099 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 While not automatic or motorized a great option for someone that want to do it on the cheap. I believe this is a machine Allan Songer uses. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardsweb Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Take the $50 you save from not buying a new one retail and buy a used table you can rob the motor out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I actually have the Nitty Gritty 1.0, which is basically the same unit in an even cheaper box. It works GREAT! This is the second one I have owned, the first having lasted about 8 years! I have been on the fence about buying one of these. Eveyone I have ever talked to who has owned one tells me that it is DRAMITICALLY better than anything they have ever used. But at $1795 I just can't seem to pull the trigger. I could buy 4 or 5 REALLY nice records for $1795! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Link to Loricraft dealer in USA: http://www.smart-cinema.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 More shots of the famed Loricraft (based on the even more insanely expensive Kieth Monks RCM). Like the Monks it uses an auto-feed thread to do the scrubbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Taylor Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 I have been have way looking for one of these the last couple of years, but I was hoping to find one used for about $100., I only have about 20 to 30 records that need to be cleaned and spending $150-$200 for one seems like a lot for something I will only use for a little while and than it will be sitting in the closet. I have heard they do a real nice job of cleaning up records. I have seen where you can buy some of them and they cost more than a high dollar turntable would cost. If anyone sees one or has one in the $100. range let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Allan, Just sell 4 or 5 really nice records and you can buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 ---------------- On 4/17/2004 6:56:05 PM Randy Taylor wrote: I have been have way looking for one of these the last couple of years, but I was hoping to find one used for about $100., I only have about 20 to 30 records that need to be cleaned and spending $150-$200 for one seems like a lot for something I will only use for a little while and than it will be sitting in the closet. I have heard they do a real nice job of cleaning up records. I have seen where you can buy some of them and they cost more than a high dollar turntable would cost. If anyone sees one or has one in the $100. range let me know. ---------------- Randy, Buy more records so you have more use for one. My guess is if you do get one, the lps will follow! In the meantime, clean your lps in the kitchen sink. It works pretty well. Before I bought my VPI, I had a dedicated soft sponge and cloth set aside. It certainly worked better than the brushes. Anti-static brushes are a must also. A good cleaning lasts a lot of plays. I've had mine for a little less than a year and have yet to clean the same lp twice. The anti-static brush is all you need in between cleanings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorcilantro Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 I had been considering an RCM myself for some time. Thought about buying a Record Doctor II or the KAB EV-1, and I also thought about building my own. I settled on a 1hp mini shop vac from Ace hardware for 25$. 1HP is a lot but works great with the smaller attachment, and seems perfect. I wrapped fleece around the end and secured it with some black electricians tape. Then I cut into the fleece, puncturing a slit. I trashed a broken old junk TT, and use it to clean on then I vaccuum with the shopvac, angling the suction attachment just slightly so I hear the squeal of air and don't just have the thing "stuck" on the LP as I spin. I think this sucks up the fluid instead of the fleec smearing it becuase when angled the attachment seems to suck up the fluid before the attachment "gets there". I use Record Resaerch cleaners and a nitty gritty brush. The advantages: 1. Cheap cost 2. Shop-vac can be used for other things (very handy if all you have now is your stand up vac) 3. No internally hidden vacuum like the Record Doctor II has (what if something goes wrong or overheats etc.) 4. Using an old TT for cleaning you have a full platter to actually use some force and scrub the LP. 5. You can vac where ever you want on the record while your looking at it, right after you clean. No flipping the LP over or the chance of section not getting vac'd. Record Research cleaners are supposed to be compatible with air drying since they claim they have no resdidues etc. so I was doing that for a while, but what about the gunk, mold release fun, and all that dirt on your precious records....just suck em up! and it just feels really great to vac 'em clean. I have had nothing but positive results. I picked up a Stanley Clarke album with a bunch of classical at Goodwill the other day, cleaned it and it sounds great. The lower cost machines form Nitty Gritty and KAB are tempting but I just went out for some other stuff at ACe and when I saw the shop vacs on sale, no less, I said, "I can make this work". So far so good. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai2000 Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Allan, please don't post any more mouthwatering shots of (and comments about) the Loricraft....otherwise waiting/saving for it becomes even more difficult . Wolfram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Just think how many mini-Shop Vacs could be purchased for $1795!! I love that story! Got pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorcilantro Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 The Loricroft looks intense, and there's nothing wrong with the Record Doctor II I assume, but I did read a couple things that led me to where I am now. The KAB EV-1 utilizes a vaccuum that you already own. I guess a small shop vac would work best for that; I wouldn't want to be hauling a stand up vac out of a closet everytime I wanted to clean an LP, and it's an eyesore. I do have pics and can post some later. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 What is, what looks like a spool of thread near the pivot of the Loricraft arm? A spool of thread? Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrench_peddler Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 The thread is used as a spacer under the edge of the suction head so nothing but clean thread touches the vinyl. You pull out 1/4" of new thread for each new album. The waste tread is collected in a jar on the side of the cleaner along with the dirt and cleaning soultion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 My record cleaner is similar to doctorcilantro's, using a cheap, low power shop vac and a free turntable. If anyone wants to spend $1795 on a record cleaner, be my guest, but I think it's absurd. A fancy record cleaner doesn't suck any better than a shop vac. There's nothing magic here. You clean the record and have a vacuum cleaner suck up the dirt. Many people with automatic machines clean manually anyway. You can buy some thread at a fabric shop for less than a dollar if you want to gaze at a spool. For elegance and class, I could see spending a few hundred on a VPI, but $1795 is getting into nutty land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Maybe not so nutty when a milk crate half full of LPs is worth more than YOUR entire system times TEN or more! Everyone record collector/lover I know who owns either the Loricraft or the Monks machine has told me that the machine is LIGHT YEARS better than the VPI 17, that records cleaned with RRL and/or Disc Doctor fluids and then vacuumed with a VPI and were still noisy often became remarkably more quiet after being cleaned by the Loricraft. Your comment about "looking at" a $1 spool of thread only shows how ignorant, intolerant and closed-mined you are. But we already knew that, didn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Nah, he's just really funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 ---------------- On 4/24/2004 6:15:08 PM Allan Songer wrote: Maybe not so nutty when a milk crate half full of LPs is worth more than YOUR entire system times TEN or more! Everyone record collector/lover I know who owns either the Loricraft or the Monks machine has told me that the machine is LIGHT YEARS better than the VPI 17, that records cleaned with RRL and/or Disc Doctor fluids and then vacuumed with a VPI and were still noisy often became remarkably more quiet after being cleaned by the Loricraft. Your comment about "looking at" a $1 spool of thread only shows how ignorant, intolerant and closed-mined you are. But we already knew that, didn't we? ---------------- You were warned about personal attacks before, Allan. Can't you remember what happened last time you flipped out? I'm happy that you enjoy the company of conspicuous consumption dudes. I'm sure they love bragging up their wares to the drooling and gullible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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