Nighthawk Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Hi there... I have a Yamaha receiver and my primary listening source is 2 channel, stereo; CD's. I have been listening to the different DSP modes and I'm still not sure what I like best, though I think I have narrowed it down to about two and I was wondering what everyone else uses mostly and for what types of music. The two I have narrowed it down to are ProLogic Enhanced or Disco. The Disco setting is a setup with the mains mirrored in the rear and the center channel not used. I would like to know what everyone else uses, what types of music they use the modes with, and why they like them. Thank you for your time, I would appreciate your comments!! ------------------ Tim "Nighthawk" Admire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buylow Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 I usually turn it off. ------------------ Mains: RF-3 Center: RC-3 Rears: RS-3 Sub: KSW-12 A/V Receiver: Yamaha HTR-5250 DVD Player: Yamaha DV-6280 CD Player: Yamaha CDC-506 VCR: Toshiba TV: Toshiba 55" Projection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quenten Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 For most of my music I turn the effects off. Every now and then I will use "Pro-Logic Enhanced" or "Rock Concert." My moods change (? moon phase, planetary axis shift, WAF--whatever) from time to time and with this my ears like something a little different. Strange how one day you listen to something and really enjoy it and the next day it's just not right! SO you start playing around, change this, then that, spend money, talk about it on the web...wow, great hobby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 The only "mode" I like in my ACT-3 is "Party". All 6 channels are sent a full range signal, either L, R or L+R. With Live recordings, the effect is of sitting in the middle of the Venue. The "Club" mode is O.K.; the rest are too odd sounding. For the most part, I don't use use the DSP modes. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 So far, I am pretty much in agreement with the last three replies... and generally try to have my program material as "unvarnished" as I can. That's why I am a fan of Klipsch speakers and SVS subs. Every once in a while, I flip to something that makes the program content a little different... and soon go back to the pure stuff. I also have a cup of hazelnut coffee at Starbucks now and then... but for a steady diet I prefer to fresh grind my own roasted-at-home Arabica blend of beans for my morning coffee. However, there is an exception. Since I do not use WDST technology side/surround speakers, I often use the "78mm Adventure" (or other as appropriate) DSP on older technology (non 5.1 or poorly done 5.1) DVD sound formats and sometimes for standard broadcast TV as well. My receiver is programmed to automatically go into a 6.1 (straight or matrixed, as needed) when any 5.1 or 6.1 sound tracks are available. To paraphrase that eloquent and accurate poster, Ray Garrison, with an offensive Parthian shot... Music is Art... Audio is Engineering... DSP is the muddle in the middle! HornEd ------------------ "Where Legends Live! Klipsch Powered HT" FOREGROUND SOUND STAGE: KLF 30 Center, KLF 30 Mains, KLF 10 Front Effects BACKGROUND SOUND STAGE: KLF 30 L&R Side/Surrounds, KLF 30 Rear Effects LARGE MOUTH BASS: Twin SVS CS-Ultra sub with Samson Megawatt Amp SPEAKER SUPPORT SYSTEMS: Mitsubishi RPHD1080i 65", Yamaha RX-V3000 Receiver and such... Tweakin' On! Two-channel Cornwall HT Recovery Room Under Construction This message has been edited by HornEd on 07-22-2001 at 10:59 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted July 23, 2001 Author Share Posted July 23, 2001 Thank you for your responses - it looks like most people listen without any effects. Hmmm! Thank you again! ------------------ Tim "Nighthawk" Admire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzter Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 I, too, like to listen to music "untarnished" by digital effects. For one, you're losing sound quality just by virtue of what the DSP chips have to do to the data to add the echo and reverb and whatever else... The DSP setting I'm most comfortable with if I DO put it on, is Jazz Club, since it adds the least digitizing and fills the room a little more by using the back speakers. However, you'll also notice that with the DSP settings you lose a little (or a lot) of the sub-frequencies, and that don't bode too well with me. I've got 15" woofers that want it (bass), and ears that want it, too, and I don't like losing it to digitizing... to steal someone else's signature... "Because no one's ever said - 'pump up the treble!'" ------------------ Front: dbx Soundfield V - 15" woofer, 8" mid, ribbon tweet, 3.25" mid & dome tweet on top Center: KLF C7 Rear Surround: Polk f/x bipole/dipole Amp: Yamaha RX-V990 100x3; 25x2 DVD: Yamaha DVD S795 (built-in DD Processor) CD: Yamaha CDC 575 5-Disc VCR: Toshiba M752 6-head TV: Mitsubishi 40" Tube DirecTV Sony Playstation w/ s-vid & RCA to V990 for awesome gaming picture & sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 i usually listen in 2-channel stereo, i don't have my sub or surrounds yet, but in the showroom i've enjoyed 5-channel stereo, which integra by onkyo and yammy's have, i first heard 5-ch stereo on an adcom pre-amp hooked up to 5 def tech bi-polars thru two sony es amps...really jammed! on sonys, i like 'live house' it sounds the most natural. avman. p.s. a.f.d.(auto format decode)on sonys is l,r + sub when 2-ch is present. ------------------ 1-pair klf 30's c-7 center sony strda-777ES receiver dishnetwork model 7200 dishplayer satellite receiver/digital bitstream recorder pioneer dvd player sharp 35"tv panamax max dbs+5 surge protector/power conditioner monster cable interconnects/12 gua.speaker wire surrounds and a 'teens sub coming! klipsch-so good it Hz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 w/ the marantz sr8000: for 2-channel music, 5-channel stereo mode or sometimes direct mode to bypass the bass mgmt & hear just the klf-30 slam it out. for 5.1 sources, auto mode or again sometimes the direct mode if the source mix is good for it. ------------------ Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnect & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z1 cable Marantz SR-8000 receiver Sony DVP-C650D 5-disk cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box Boa's Listenin Lounge: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Monster MCX Biwires Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975) Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3 Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer Technics SL-1950 turntable/AT LS500 cartridge Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted July 23, 2001 Author Share Posted July 23, 2001 Thanks for your responses once again. I enjoy reading everyone's thoughts. ------------------ Tim "Nighthawk" Admire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Nighthawk: The Disco setting is a setup with the mains mirrored in the rear and the center channel not used. Tim - Love the use of the word mirror in the same sentence as disco -- BONUS POINTS FOR THAT! (LOL). The only modes I use for music are stereo, direct (no sub or EQ at all), and 5-channel stereo. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted July 24, 2001 Author Share Posted July 24, 2001 dougdrake2: LOL! Thanks again everyone... the "clean" sound of NO EFFECTS is really awesome! The bass truely is ten times better! ------------------ Tim "Nighthawk" Admire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 I use the disco mode for all the music. I adjusted the sound field parameters to half of the original sets. It decrease the echo in the rear channels. The receiver is the Yammy RX-V 2095, Chorus IIs mains and KLF-20s rear. ------------------ Cruzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 Yes, Cruzer, but where have you placed the mirror? DD (Disco Doug) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Adams Posted July 26, 2001 Share Posted July 26, 2001 I too am in the no DSP effects camp. However...when my system was powered by an older Sony Pro-Logic reciever, I would use "Stadium" while watching Monday Night Football or the Superbowl. That was pretty cool. Tom Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 If you turn the effects off, you are only getting two channel stereo, is that what everyone likes/want? Is there any other way to make the Yammy to sound better. ------------------ Cruzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M6 Driver Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 I prefer just plain old 2 channel for a majority of my music really don't dont want to tinker with Diana Kralls voice but the only exception is my Music Choice channels I'll use the DISCO setting for the Techo stuff and that's it. ------------------ Thanks J KLF 30 Mains C7 Center 8.5 rears Yamaha RX-V995 Toshiba SD-1600 DVD Pioneer CLD-S201 LD Pioneer PD-M53 CD Sony 32 inch TV no subs till house built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzter Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Cruzer: If you turn the effects off, you are only getting two channel stereo, is that what everyone likes/want? Is there any other way to make the Yammy to sound better. Turn it up to 12:00! ------------------ Front: dbx Soundfield V - 15" woofer, 8" mid, ribbon tweet, 3.25" mid & dome tweet on top Center: KLF C7 Rear Surround: Polk f/x bipole/dipole Amp: Yamaha RX-V990 100x3; 25x2 DVD: Yamaha DVD S795 (built-in DD Processor) CD: Yamaha CDC 575 5-Disc VCR: Toshiba M752 6-head TV: Mitsubishi 40" Tube DirecTV Sony Playstation w/ s-vid & RCA to V990 for awesome gaming picture & sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 I wish I could turn it up to 12, I live in goverment housing in Germany (military) and the louder I can go, before the whole stairwell shakes is 10. When I get back my house in the US I will try 12 for sure... ------------------ Cruzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted August 1, 2001 Author Share Posted August 1, 2001 "If you turn the effects off, you are only getting two channel stereo, is that what everyone likes/want? Is there any other way to make the Yammy to sound better." Oh yeah! 2-channel stereo is by far the best sounding music ever. Yes, I have joined the "2-Channel Club" and after being enlightend by all of the great people on this board, I can safely say that I will NEVER turn back to ProLogic or any DSP modes... they sound so... fake! Where 2-channel is clean, pure, and has the best bass I have ever heard... wow! Thanks everyone. ------------------ Tim "Nighthawk" Admire Mains: Klipsch KSB 3.1 Rears: Klipsch KSB 1.1 Center: Klipsch KSC-C1 Sub: Yamaha 8" Receiver: Yamaha HTR-5240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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