Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Hi When I listen movies, the voices (from my RC-25) doesn't seem as loud as the special effects, so I have to increase the volume for the voices but when there's a lot of effects, it's too loud so I put the volume down a bit, I do it back and forth..so maybe there's something wrong, or I forgot to do something...? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frzninvt Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I run into that all the time, alot of it is dependent on how the DVD soundtrack was mixed. Even with two centers sometimes the dialogue is weak so I turn it up to compensate and then whammo a special effects scene so I have to scramble for the remote to back it down. You need to set all your channel levels and distances correctly for the best performance, using an SPL meter and HT set up disc can go along way to correcting the problem or at least making it better. A number of folks also reported the the RC-25 or RC-35 was kind of hollow sounding not sure if that is an issue for you or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 I used EZset, a special feature that harman kardon receivers have to calibrate the channels automaticaly...I don't know if it works well... for the rc-25 I don't find the sound to be hollow...when the volume is correct, I find it perfect.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 when I got my rc-25 it was making a humming noise when I turned the tv on (it sits on my tv) and I din't know a lot about speakers so I went back to the store and they replaced my unit, I got another one. It was doing the same thing so I called Klipsch and they said that my speaker was picking something from the t.v , pretty rare because my tv is not old, 1 year old. They said it was not dangerous for the speaker so it is still doing the noise but we can't hear it when we are not near the speaker. I didn't listen to the RC-35, but I think the rc-25 sounds muffled a little bit, not as clear as my towers...when I think about it...but I guess it's normal ? How can I know if there is something wrong with the speaker or if it's made that way...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streyle Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I have also used the EZset on my HK DPR 1001, but I found that I had to run it 2 or 3 times to properly balance it......I have an RC-35 and it always sounds clear and for everything I have watched the balance has been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I found that the E-Z Set did not work very well for me. I used it and listened to som movies and it didn't sound quite right. Using the Avia set up disc and and an SPL meter (Radio Shack) I re-calibrated the system. BIG difference. I would imagine that E-Z Set has your center channel set too low. You can go in manually and bump it a few Db's until you set it up with a meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 What's the procedure with an SPL meter...not very familiar with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 The condition that you are suffering from is actually normal. It is called dynamic range. ( the difference between the softest sound and the loudest ) Sometimes, the dynamic range on a dvd is very wide, with power requirements from 300 milliwatts to 100 watts. You may increase the level of the center channel in the receiver, this may help to increase the level of the voices. The amount of background noise should also be reduced if this is a possibility, this will help you hear the softer passages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streyle Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 how many times have you run the EZSET feature? I'd try it one more time just to see if that works..... an SPL meter I believe will do the same sort of procedure as the EZset feature.....you play test tones, measure the signal with SPL and perform the adjustments manually to balance all the speakers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 I will perform the test again and will see... thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Jennifer: I have the H/K AVR430 - may I kindly suggest you do NOT run the EZset, and go out and buy a Radio Shack SPL meter and do it manually. You will be FAR happier with the results, it is quite easy, and far more reliable. While EZset is a nice idea, it simply is not sensitive or accurate enough. Popbumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 You may also look in your receiver's settings to see if it has a "night" mode. My HK does. It will slightly suppress the loud passages and you can turn the overall volume up. The difference between the quiet passages and loud passages will not be so drastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 thanks for the suggestions. I will buy a SPL meter. So I just have to use the SPL meter with the test tone in the HK settings and then calibrate each channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 there are two type of sound meter...analog and digital, which one should I get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 My RS analog meter has been serving me well for over thirty years if that is any indication. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I get the same results using EzSet or a Radio Shack SPL meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 You may also look in your receiver's settings to see if it has a "night" mode. My HK does. It will slightly suppress the loud passages and you can turn the overall volume up. The difference between the quiet passages and loud passages will not be so drastic. +++++++++++++++++++++++ Agree on the night mode for offensively mastered DVDs. I adjust mine by ear with no remote. I need the excersize jumping off the couch.HEHE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer1 Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 so some people say it's the same with ezset, and others no.... I guess I will buy anyway an spl meter and see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Given the INCONSISTENCY of the EZset function (I am not saying it does not work, I just found the manual method to be more reliable/predictable), I would suggest the meter. Yes, use the test tones from the receiver. Put the meter on "A" weighting, and place it where your ears would be when you are seated. Adjust each channel to get the same dB value; it is BEST to set them all in the 70-80dB range, since "reference" is set in the 80's (though it may be too loud for you to listen to, which is why I suggested 70's). Finally, bump up your center channel a few dB; this is a common practice, and OFTEN helps "deficient" soundtracks to be more balanced. Besides, the most important info comes from the center, and nothing else should appreciably mask it. One final note; the RS meter, while available in two flavors, is more difficult to find in the analog version. I bought a digital meter as a result, and while some have suggested the analog is "better", the digital does just fine for this purpose. Enjoy! Popbumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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