tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I have an AH! non-upsampled CD player (has the cord and feet). I am consideruing getting the upsampler (at $350) but am wondering if the Jolida is the way to go. I shoudl be able to sell teh AH! and step into a Jolida (used) for about the same money. I am very happy with the AH, just wondering if I am missing something. Opinions? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Chris, I have not heard the Jolida, so can be of no help there. Listened to the AH! for a couple of months before adding the upsampler. I was skeptical, but curious. I have to say I was impressed. It exceeded my expectations. One reviewer I'd read described the sound of the upsampled AH! was like lifting a veil off the music. Thought that description rang true with my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Dee is wrong. you should sell the Ah! to me... ;^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 can you trust someone whose avatar is a cigarette smoking elk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 can you trust someone whose avatar is a cigarette smoking elk? Is that what it is?, I thought ole fini turned into a hootie toking bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Yep, it's an elk. A big one, with attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 contrary view .... every time i have tried an upsampling DAC with my AA transport .... i have wasted no time going back ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Duke, Interesting. Yeh, on the downside, the AH! upsampler is dedicated and proprietary... can't be used on any other gear. However, the things I've read about getting a DAC dialed in made me think it was a more user friendly option. I will also add that the Heart CD player, which does not offer an upsampler sounds fabulous and is given the edge over the AH! by Dick Olshner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Dee, If you find yourself wanting to sell either the Ah! or the Heart, put me on the list of interested parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Fini, Got you on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Dee, realize Fini will want a smokin moose of a deal[] Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrMcGoo Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I have an AH! non-upsampled CD player (has the cord and feet). I am consideruing getting the upsampler (at $350) but am wondering if the Jolida is the way to go. I shoudl be able to sell teh AH! and step into a Jolida (used) for about the same money. I am very happy with the AH, just wondering if I am missing something. Opinions? Chris Chris, Not all upsamplers are equally good. I happen to have a good one. (Neither brand under consideration.) It can easily be worth the cost, if you get the results possible. I have experimented with my system as was shocked at how much better the sound can be. I used a transport that was not upsampled versus one that was upsampled via a jitter free digital link. If you can try the AH! with the right to return it, go for it. You will not know till you try. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Bill, What upsampler and transport are you using? Pardon me if they're listed somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperfectcircle25 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I own the Ah! Super Tjoeb 4000 w/upsampler, and I must say the differance is not small, it is definitly like lifting a veil from the music. Everything is better, more detail, clearer midrange, deeper tighter bass and more sparkle in the highs. The Ah! Tjoeb 4000 without the upsampler is a decent player at best, but with it, its among the best under $2k in my opinion. Go for it, if you dont like it you can easily sell it on Audiogon. Just curious, what tubes are you using, the second biggest upgrade next to the upsampler was upgrading the crap Jan Philips tubes with some Seimens 7308 gold pins, or if your on a tighter budget the Rocket Logo russian tubes are quite good as well. Good luck and happy listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 I need to check what tubes are in it. It came with extra tubes. My real question is whetehr the Jolida in stock form is comparabel to the AH with upsampler. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Bill, What upsampler and transport are you using? Pardon me if they're listed somewhere. Fini, I have a home theater setup that has this feature built in. My receiver is a Pioneer Elite 59TXi and I have the Pioneer DV-47Ai universal player. The systems upsamples at 8x the regular rate. The i.link allows the receiver to reclock the CD so that it is jitter free. My receiver also decodes SACDs and DVD-As via i.link and the use of the Burr-Brown PCM 1704 DACs (which allows a 113 db dynamic range.) With upsample being used, it sounds nearly as good as SACDs. The DV-47Ai makes CDs sound better than other transports connected via coax or Toslink. My amps are made by Sunfire (Bob Carver) which claims to have a tube like sound, but otherwise, my system is 100% solid state. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperfectcircle25 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Ive only heard the Jolida player briefly at a dealer, it was quite good. But I can't say which is the better of the two. I will say that I choose the Ah! Tjoeb 4000/upsampled over a few players in the $1000 range, the Arcam cd82 and Rega Planet to name a few. Although the higer end players from those two companies did have a significant edge over the Ah! Tjoeb albiet at double the price. For the price I doubt you can do much better, if you are happy with your Ah! player then keep it and add the upsampler and some good tubes, the Jolida most likely will be differant sounding but most likely not better. I highly reccomend Seimens 7308 gold pin tubes, they are pricey but they were the biggest improvement next to the upsampler. My advice is if you like the Ah! player stick with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazytubepower Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I had the same consideration, however I am going for the jolida for the better build quilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Eversince owing the the Jolida JD-100A, I have not turn back to my Rega Planet which some here have high regard for. There is also no need to look for another transport or an upsampler for that matter. I am just simply contented! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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