mark1101 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Sounds good, Mark. Hate to get down to minutia, but a have indents where the body of the stable slammed against the wood. Kind of like if you pressed your fingernail into a styrofoam cup to leave a little dent. Did you have any of those to deal with? Well, I'm home now and looking at them I can still see a couple of tiny holes I missed, or decided not to mess with. I don't see indents from a stapler head or hammer or anything like that. But, do the math. '73 corns are how old? Mine do not look like the stunning ones posted earlier here. They don't look their age either, but you do see some anomalies. I would venture to say that for mine, the only improvement in aesthetics worth the time would probably be a veneer job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Jeff, here's an idea, fill any DEEP holes from the staples with putty. If you fill the indents, you will highlight the problem becasue the stain will be across the grain in parts and it will show up even worse, especially across the top of the face.You might try this on a scrap piece of wood first. (abuse in a similar fashion, putty holes, leave staple marks alone). Apply putty to deep holes, leaving indents alone. lightly sand entire front, then apply poly to the face. After several coats of poly, it might fill in the indents. What is most noticable about the indents might be the way they diffract light, once filled in with the clear poly, you have a flat surface that reflects light the same, but is not highlighted by the addition of putty to those areas. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Okay, instead of trying to steam out the dents (which is what the staples have done) read the following. I found this on the Lansing Heritage forums (you use methanol and water, and no steaming): To All: In a properly ventilated area, with latex gloves, its soooo easy to swell the veneer. I assumed everyone would have the proper respect for solvents and treat them accordingly. However on the tech side, while yes you have to be careful, I used methanol-water (about 10% water/90% meoh) and light swipes to swell the wood grain prior to sanding this week. It worked so well I lightly swelled all sides, then sanded with various grades of wet/dry sandpaper. It made for a set of beautiful enclosures. It really brought out the burling in my speaker enclosures. If its not your gig, so be it; but I've been a polymer chemist for 27 years; and it worked for me. I have no fear of solvents; as I use them all the time in a GMP environment. You just have to avoid dangerous vapor concentrations/conditions. In a previous life I had used tung oil on my L100's. Here I've had to use "lab blend", which contains a lot of acetone. I can post the mix later. It too with slight added amounts of water can swell the wood easily . However, a "neat" (undiluted) application easily stripped the tung oil and all surface finishes--waxes etc, with a little elbow grease. It quickly dries without damaging the veneer adhesion; literally in a matter of seconds. Prior to solvent re-application, I waited 30 to 45 minutes to avoid any chance of delamination. Here I used gloves specifically recommended for acetone, and did the work in my ventilated garage door up, side door open. The acetone-lab blend when applied removed ~90% of the water stain I had on the top of 1 enclosure, light sanding got the rest. Perfect job on my wife's 20 year old water stain!! While some (on the forum) might recommend against it; it worked beautifully for me. A caveat..my L-100s were in immaculate condition except for minor scratches. They have no veneer damage or lifting after ~32 years. After treatment I sanded with 220/320/ 400/600/0000 steel wool. The L-100s were then smooth and ready for Watco. On the top edges and side edges, I clamped 2" ash stringers (after felt lining the wood surface that went against the box (3M 77). The felt lined surfaces went against the box, and lined up with the top edges. In that way, the sanding block did not creep over the edge and sand (ie round over) the veneer edges. Worked for me; just remember If you're a smoker..not while you've got the solvents out. In writing this post, prior to knocking it; remember the paint removers you've used in the past. Far more nasty; as this doesn't require methylene chloride like they use. BTW, the amount of time per speaker enclosure from swell to sand 220/320/400/600/ 0000 steel wool? <2.5 hours per enclosure to completely scratch free; ready-to-stain. The Watco oil finish will take much longer to get an even, fully saturated application. Great results seen on an enclosure in one evening! ======= Elsewhere in the trhead, guys used this technique on deeper dents as well. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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