Lone Palm Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 Just saw Shrek. Great movie for entire family! Gotta problem with it though. The dts version is letter boxed. This means cropped. This whole thing was done on a computer monitor. This means the whole frame is actually the tv screen version. this is only DD5.1. For superior audio you have to watch a cropped version. Ain't this a ripoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 hmmm... first of all i HATED shrek. ok now to helping... i have NEVER heard of that. that is crazy. kinda defeats teh purpose of DTS... it makes your mobvie experience the best it can be and then they cut out half of hte picture! that is stupid! ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional help you want email Amy or call her toll free @ 1-888-554-5665 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 HATED it?? Are you kidding? To each his own, I guess, but I LOVED it. One of the best films of the year---I'm serious! fini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 my family is like hte only one in america that hated that movie. ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional help you want email Amy or call her toll free @ 1-888-554-5665 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iXtreme Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 Perhaps if they talked about money and/or how much they spent on stuff during the movie you'd have liked it? ------------------ Don't count on me, to let you know when..... Don't count on me, I'll do it again. Don't count on me, it's the point you're missing. Don't count on me, cause I'm not listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 huh? no, it was just kinda gross at times. i did not like shrek's voice, he has done better voices like that but ohwell. i did like moster's inc. and both toy stories... ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional help you want email Amy or call her toll free @ 1-888-554-5665 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhernan Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 People, People. Let us remember the reason fiction movies are made in the first place......entertainment. Were you entertained? I saw this movie with my family - let me start with my kids impression: they loved it, and watched it several times at their request.....mission accomplished. Next, my impression: Very entertaining (misssion accomplished again), and the "adult" jokes and references were adult enough where only adults and adolescents were old enough to understand them - no harm done. Overall, I thought it was an great movie. Did I rent it for the sound quality? No. If I wanted sound quality I would have put in T2, Matrix or some other high tech movie that you expect great sound from. DD 5.1 is not so bad either, maybe you need a better sound system...... I do agree that widescreen is better than letterbox, but again, sound should not be your major interest when there is a much higher level of message being sent to you from the writers, producers and directors. See ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLUngurait Posted November 18, 2001 Share Posted November 18, 2001 Lone Palm, You said: "The dts version is letter boxed. This means cropped. This whole thing was done on a computer monitor. This means the whole frame is actually the tv screen version. this is only DD5.1. For superior audio you have to watch a cropped version. Ain't this a ripoff!" Even if a feature film is created entirely on a computer it can use an aspect ratio different than it's monitor's sceen. Letterboxed screens (16:9 the ratio of 35mm film and HDTV) actually show the ENTIRE frame as the film maker intended...as opposed to the 4:3 ratio of your standard TV or computer monitor. In fact...when you watch a feature film on your TV that is NOT letterboxed...THAT is the picture that is being cropped from it's original framing. abhernan, You said: "...... I do agree that widescreen is better than letterbox..." Widescreen and letterboxed (which refer to the 16:9 format ratio) are the SAME. BTW...I give "Shrek" two thumbs up! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoGUY Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 DLUngurait is 100% correct, and took the words right out my mouth. All of the animation and modeling was done in a 16:9 aspect ration, whether the computer they did it on had a 4:3 screen or not it doesn't matter, as long as when its rendered it is in 16:9 it will go to film, or cassette in that way. and technically letterbox'd movies are not cropped, 4:3 moves are. that black space is there because there is no video information for you too see in the first place. once you watch a movie in 4:3, then yes the edges are "cropped" off. you are loosing information and visuals that you were oringinally intended to see, and part of the creators original message. alot can be lost when a movie is seen in 4:3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Palm Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 Ungurait, I always watch films in the widescreen version. I beleive one should see the film as intended. But the "widescreen" version of Shrek is actually a cropped version. In other words if you saw this film in the theatre you saw only a piece of it. The full frame version is 4:3. The same is true with A BUG'S LIFE and TOY STORY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted December 1, 2001 Share Posted December 1, 2001 Shrek was an awesome movie. 4:3 is cropped. When you saw it in the theater was the Movie screen square or rectangular? The Widescreen Version is 1.78:1 anamorphic. They don't get much better than this, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted December 1, 2001 Share Posted December 1, 2001 We all like Shrek here, funny movie enjoy it! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 well, i went to my g/f's house today and rewatched it. it is not as bad as i made myself think it was ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenthouseKev Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Haven't seen the movie yet. Since I don't buy movies that much, I depend on my friends to invite me over to watch such movies and have fellowship...Hint, Hint. I understand from Lone Palm that is an excellent family movie though! ------------------ PHKev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Palm Posted December 3, 2001 Author Share Posted December 3, 2001 Tell me this. In the opening scene in the 4:3 version I see the whole book. In the wide screen version the top and bottom of the book is hidden by the black bars. Is this not cropped? Some of the frame is missing. toddvj The movie screen is definately rectangular. So in the theatre one sees a cropped version. Total Recall was shot in 4:3. Got info from Stereo Reveiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 5, 2001 Share Posted December 5, 2001 i can not wait for Monsters Inc. to come out on DVD. That will be awesome, had some of the best, no maybe THE best, graphics i had ever seen, just look at his fur, every hair was unique. that movie rocked@! ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Posted December 12, 2001 Share Posted December 12, 2001 I liked Shrek, but I liked Monsters, Inc even more. Not so much for the animation quality, which admittedly was not as good as Shrek, but the story was was better. My opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreyb Posted December 17, 2001 Share Posted December 17, 2001 I agree with Marshal, Shrek was OK, but the graphics and story were better in Monsters, INC. I liked this movie a lot better. I also heard that there were 5.7 million doors in the "Door Vault" scene, all individualy created. Also, another fact that may blow you away is that in Monsters, INC., EVERY FRAME took 6-90 HOURS to render!! When there are 24 frames a second, think about that!! Movies could take a year to render!! I also liked the "For the Brids"- short before the movie. Definitly better than Shrek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLUngurait Posted December 29, 2001 Share Posted December 29, 2001 I recently received "Shrek" on DVD for Xmas so I thought I would do a simple test on the opening shot of the book to see whether the Widescreen version or the Full Screen version is cropped. The framing from top to bottom screen is identical in both versions. The framing of the Full Screen version has been panned to the right cropping the left side of the frame. This shot of the storybook is a very slow zoom in so it is important to compare the same frame...I chose the last frame before Shrek's hand enters the frame to rip out the page as my frame for this test. There were 4 or 5 letter spaces on the left side of the storybook the were cropped out of the Full Screen version. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Thank You. I've been meaning to test it out myself, because I didn't think it was possible that they "made" a widescreen movie out of a 4:3 movie. It just didn't make sense. Thanks for saving me the time. Now I can sleep better at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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