funkyhambone Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 i just received my mcintosh mr73 tuner in the mail today. the person i bought it from on ebay decided that wrapping it several times in bubble wrap and placing in a cardboard box would suffice. if i just had the patience to buy local......................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyhambone Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 to add something funny. i just seconds ago closed a deal on one 4 hours away. with the manual and original mcintosh box in pristine condition. go figure. at least i did get the other one insured, but it is still going to be a pain to deal with. what are the odds???!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 funkyhambone, Just a heads up so you're prepared. If you shipped the first one using FedEx, UPS or DHL, you did not buy "insurance", you paid a "declare value" charge. There is a *HUGE* difference. Insurance will pay you if something is damaged. You buy insurance, something happens, the insurance carrier pays you, deal done from your end. Declared value is something completely different. When you pay a declare value charge (FedEx is $2.50 for the first $500, then $0.50 for each $100 after that) you are paying a surcharge that establishes the value of the product you are shipping. If you don't pay this fee, the value of any item shipped in the express shipping environment is capped at $100. This fee simply raises the cap. To collect the value of the product, you will still have to show (a) that the carrier was liable for the damage, as opposed to something like poor packaging on the part of the shipper, and ( produce a bullet-proof invoice that establishes the replacement value of the item that was damaged. Not to say that you can't successfully prosecute a claim for the product, just wanted to be sure you understood what your starting position is. Ray, CTO of www.periship.com Perishable shipment? PeriShip It! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Thanks Ray, I guess that's why I am in week 14 waiting for UPS to pay me (the seller then me I hope) for a pair of Klipsch speakers they destroyed...love the touch about proving they were improperly packed...by UPS...arrrgghhh. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyhambone Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 well mine were shipped via united states post office. i have yet to receive a response from the seller. i hope that they just haven't read my message yet. time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 funky, I have been amazed at the poor packing done in audio gear I've purchased on Ebay. Sorry to hear of this episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMays Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yep, dealing with a TT issue this very minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 my Quicksilver preamp came from an Audiogon seller w/ great feedback ... was shipped in a squashed cardboard box, w/ 2 layers of bubble wrap how it came damage free is beyond me it fell outta the box as i picked it up .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMays Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 my Quicksilver preamp came from an Audiogon seller w/ great feedback ... was shipped in a squashed cardboard box, w/ 2 layers of bubble wrap how it came damage free is beyond me it fell outta the box as i picked it up .... It wasn't damaged? WOW!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Funky, Sorry for your trouble.[] Your tuner was well packed compared to the Bozo I bought a Scott 299D from a few months ago. He packed it in a box that those paper toilet seat covers are shipped. The amp was wrapped in newspaper and he was stingy with the newspaper! GRRR![:@] Needless to say, although he advertised it as "for parts" that's all it's good for now. For $122 it wasn't worth fighting. I'll use the transformers in a 6L6 PP amp I'm going to build this winter. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Not one to brag but if I ever offer anything for sale to these forum members you can rest assured the item WILL be received undamaged. I pack my gear well enough to at least withstand a N. Korean nuclear bomb test. Just shipped in two boxes, 135lbs. of Mc seperates that the buyer said was packed better than he has ever seen. Of course I am lucky that my company is quite used to handling heavy weight articles and has the packaging materials to do so. That is the difference. To the general public without easy access to double wall boxes that alone can cost $7-10 each, packing popcorn, 1/4 plywood for box liner, syrofoam, industrial bubble wrap, etc. it is not so easy. A couple fellows in our warehouse who work evenings at FedEx tell some real horror stories, the smaller the package the farther it is thrown, the heavier packages actually stand a little better chance of surviving as not many people can throw 70-80 lbs. very far. But then again, when they throw open the door of an incoming semi, they back off and let the stack fall where it may. And lets not forget that at FedEx the unloaders are expected to empty a truck at the rate of 1300 - 1400 packages per hour, the minimum before they toss your *** out the door is 1150. THAT is why our precious parecls are destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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