spacelord2002 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I currently have a pair of 1983 Cornwalls and am thinking of adding a pair of Forte's to them. I'm not too sure when the Forte's were made, and I'm wondering if this pairing would be okay? I have a set of Heresy's I'm using as my second pair but with the Forte's would I Iose anything from the Cornwalls? Thanks, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Is this for a Home Theatre setup? What is your music/movie % and what do you listen to? I think the Forte's wouldn't be a bad mate to CW's. I've heard them together in the same room and have both types. Are your Fortes the II type? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacelord2002 Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 It's mostly music, I have a good dvd player but music is my first love, I pretty much listen to everything, mostly rock and classical stuff. I'm not too sure when the Forte's were made, I think they're around early ninetys or so. I figured they would be good being in the same Heritage class as the Cornwalls. Thanks, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 you'll prolly end up selling the Cornie's ......[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Selling his Cornie's? ...maybe not..... I have a home theater setup that has progressed from: Four Forte's and an Academy Center, to... Four Forte's and a Forte Center (5 Forte's), to..... Two Forte surround, Corn's L&R, and a Forte center This is the BEST setup I have had so far in all of these combinations. The Forte's and Cornwalls all have new crossovers in them, and the sound across the front stage is marvelous. The Cornwalls are MUCH more detailed in the mids and tweets than the Fortes ever were, and have really brought new life to the setup. The center Forte is uniquely complemented with Mundorf silver/oil caps, with the sound lush and realistic - perfect for a center channel; everything else has Kimbers. Is the timbre match PERFECT? I would not claim that - but the difference between the Corn's and Forte's is so minor that it is easily excusable. I far prefer this setup to all Forte's, though most would claim an assemblage of all the same speakers is BEST. I thought so too - until I mixed them to reap the complement of both. My answer, personally, is YES - have no fear in mixing Forte's and Corns. They are more complementary than you would think. I am glad I tried it. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 "The Cornwalls are MUCH more detailed in the mids and tweets than the Fortes ever were" The pre-85 Cornwalls had a much rougher frequency reponse than the Forte. Some might mistake this for 'detail'. The Cornwall II shares the same basic mid and HF drivers as the Forte, and are a better timbre match. A mid 80s Cornwall may have the same midrange driver as the Forte, but the older tweeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacelord2002 Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thanks for responding! There is no way I would part with the Cornwalls, I never would take that advice. I think now I will probably get the Forte's for sure after the feed back from here. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Djk: "The pre-85 Cornwalls had a much rougher frequency reponse than the Forte" As fitted with stock crossovers? Does this statement apply with any certainty to these speakers now fitted with improved networks? I can believe that the above statement may be true, but what I am hearing now is not in any way "mistaking roughness for detail". Besides, how does roughness equate to detail? That's kind of like saying, "hey, this 800 speed film sure produces more detailed pictures than that 25 speed film". Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 for most 2 channel listening situations, I recommend one pair of speakers only. In other words make a choice. There are numerous reasons against using multiple pairs in the same room for critical 2 channel music. But I would not sell the other pair, surely there is another room in the home that deserves a great sound system. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 "As fitted with stock crossovers?" Especially with the stock type B crossover. I have always advocated a steep crossover point on the tweeter (like the Cornwall II). " Does this statement apply with any certainty to these speakers now fitted with improved networks?" If they're steeper, it reduces the magnitude and spacing of the comb-filtering dips and peaks caused by the drivers not being coincident. " I can believe that the above statement may be true, but what I am hearing now is not in any way "mistaking roughness for detail". Besides, how does roughness equate to detail?" The narrow peaks seem to bring out more detail (because it's louder). The K77 is rough as a cob, I think it even sounds worse than it measures. Given a choice, I won't listen to one. The K79 both sounds good and measures good. The 18dB Chebychev high-pass works well with it too (Cornwall II). "That's kind of like saying, "hey, this 800 speed film sure produces more detailed pictures than that 25 speed film". " I don't do film, and so have no idea as to whether or not your statement has meaning in this context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom3 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I think the dtels use Corns and Fortes together...suggest you PM them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Dtels have two systems. Yamaha w/ 6 Fortes for HT, HK with CWIII's for two ch listening. We hooked up the 2ch while I was there. Dtel clan digs it for music over the Forte's. If you have the acreage, separate systems are the way to go for a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltie dave Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The Fortes/Cornwalls play well together in the sandbox. The Fortes seem to be smoother and hang together well if you really start slamming them with power, while the Cornwalls(with stock crossovers) start showing DJK's corncobs past a certain point. If you like to slam, you'll end up modding the xovers and maybe changing the K77s on the Corwalls, while not touching the Fortes. From my formative years, spent in dissolate drunken excess, debauchery, and foggy recovery[] I still have a very soft spot for the robust Cornwall low end. And Michael - the DTels will always like the CIIIs over any other speaker set, given their history in acquiring it. I know I would.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsched with Yamahas Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Along these lines, I too have a set of the 83 Walls w/K51V squawker. Someone suggested a set of heresy's, and another person said use the Cornies's as flankers to compliment a set of Klipschorns. Advice/suggestions for optimal setup please. NOT SELLING THE CORNWALLS! Strictly for 2-CHANNEL audio ONLY, NO sound surround or Theatre applications! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Every time I've seen someone sell Cornwalls here, they've always expressed regret later. Good choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo72 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 If for some reason you ever do want to sell them, i'm local. Always give a shout here 1st. Good luck with the Forte purchase! Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychicum Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 If "Cornwalls" were to mate with "Forte" speakers ... you would get "Chorus". [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 If "Cornwalls" were to mate with "Forte" speakers ... you would get "Chorus". [] Yeah but that would be the adult, they'd start at Quartets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardP Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 A Corte ? A Fornwall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsched with Yamahas Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 A Corte ? A Fornwall? ........Or even a Cornforte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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