ibanezhater Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I still cannot understand why people think Slash is a great guitarist. He's not. He was in a very popular band, and may have helped Gibson sell a lot of Les Pauls, but he blows as a soloist. There's literally hundreds and hundreds of metal players who can smoke this guy. Chuck Berry? Yeah, he influenced a lot of people, like Angus Young, but c'mon! Guys like Yngwie, George Lynch, Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai, Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, John Petrucci - those guys can play. And Kirk Hammett?: no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 If you really want see more about Chuck Berry, get a copy of HAIL,HAIL, ROCK AND ROLL.............it's the best Chuck Berry you'll see, to be totaly honest the clip of Chuck Berry in this poll is awful................just re-enforces my feelings that this poll is just a bad joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 just re-enforces my feelings that this poll is just a bad joke Yeah, right, what do the editors of a mag called GUITAR WORLD know about guitar, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 "Guys like Yngwie, George Lynch, Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai, Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, John Petrucci - those guys can play." And will be long forgotten when people are still listening to Berry. And learning from his music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 just re-enforces my feelings that this poll is just a bad joke Yeah, right, what do the editors of a mag called GUITAR WORLD know about guitar, anyway? Tell me Parrot...............Do you really believe everything you read???? Could you honestly look me in the eye and tell me that clip of Chuck Berry is good Guitar playing??? Have you seen, Hail, Hail, Rock and Roll ??? I like Chuck Berry, always have, but He is at best, a limited guitar player. The editors of Guitar World probably know Guitars, no where in that title do I see the word Guitarist, or Guitar Player. Nice try.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Better than seeing "Hail, Hail, Rock and Roll," I was at the two back-to-back concerts at the Fox in St. Louis that were filmed for the movie. You've had 10 people in this thread so far tell you why Berry is in the list. Are you more stubborn than a mule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Paul I cannot believe that you are not posting in the Cool Jazz thread. I have been looking for your contribution! And yes Chuck Berry is one of the all time greats. His influence alone secures him near the top of any list. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthfreek Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I wrote my own damn list: Jeff Beck-Cause We've Ended As Lovers Tommy Bolin(Billy Cobham's Spectrum)-Quadrant 4 George Lynch(Dokken)-Mr. Scary John Fahey-America Ritchie Blackmore(Deep Purple)-Highway Star Yngwie Malmsteen-Black Star Randy Rhoads(Ozzy Osbourne)-Suicide Solution(Live) Lenny Breau-Taranta Jimi Hendrix-Machine Gun Steve Vai & Ry Cooder-Eugene's Trick Bag/Headcuttin' Duel(Crossroads movie) Eddie Van Halen(Van Halen)-Eruption Manuel Göttsching(Ash Ra Tempel)-Inventions For Electric Guitar(the whole thing) Pat Metheny(Steve Reich)-Electric Counterpoint Paul Gilbert(Racer X)-Frenzy Grant Green-Idle Moments Klaus Schulze(w/ Pete Namlook)-Dark Side Of The Moog David Gilmour(Pink Floyd)-Comfortably Numb Frank Zappa-Sexual Harassment In The Workplace Kenny Burrell-Soul Lament Michael Brook-Shona Bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Better than seeing "Hail, Hail, Rock and Roll," I was at the two back-to-back concerts at the Fox in St. Louis that were filmed for the movie. You've had 10 people in this thread so far tell you why Berry is in the list. Are you more stubborn than a mule? I guess I am more stubborn than a mule...........If you were at those two shows, are you trying to tell me that Chuck Berry was better than Eric Clapton, Robert Cray, and Keith Richards ? Chuck Berry is famous for his MUSIC, not his Guitar Playing.....What is it you ten people don't understand, again I ask you, Can you look me in the eye, with a straight face, and tell me that film clip of Chuck Berry, is good guitar playing? What's the next retort, I'm dumb as an OX ??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 synthfreek, Now that is my kind of list. I would only change one or two things for my personal preference. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 " are you trying to tell me that Chuck Berry was better than Eric Clapton, Robert Cray, and Keith Richards ? " Keith Richards probably thinks so. I never got the Clapton thing, he was good in Cream and had a couple of flashes since then but basically since Cream he sank into soporific noodling doldrums IMO. As for Cray, well when you're from Chicago you don't pay much attention to east coast Blues, not when you have players from Mississippi, west Tennessee and Louisiana around. You know, fellas like Buddy Guy. ;-) Hell, I knew a CTA bus driver who plays nights at the Harlem Ave Lounge and could burn Cray down. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Good one, Synth! Jeff Beck-Cause We've Ended As Lovers One of my all time favorites! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Then, and now . . The Low Cost of (Guitar) Heroism If a teenager can become a make-believe guitar hero, will he ever bother to master the real thing? By Steven Levy Newsweek Jan. 29, 2007 issue - Legend has it that the iconic blues guitarist Robert Johnson was granted his otherworldly chops by Satan himself, at a deal forged at a Mississippi crossroads. The price was his soul. In 2007, one does not have to cut such a hard bargain to get the unique rush of being a guitar god. You don't even have to sit in your room and practice for months on end. All you need is a PlayStation 2, a special game controller that looks like a tiny Gibson model SG and software called Guitar Hero 2. Within 10 minutes, you will be shredding heavy metal. As you get more adept at the game you will be ecstatically channeling Eddie Van Halen. All this with no strings attached. By allowing more than 2 million gamers to become ax slingers without the years of practice involved, Guitar Hero has become a cultural phenomenon. Technically, you are not creating music by pushing buttons on the fret board of the game controller (which button to push is dictated by similarly colored dots that scroll on your screen at higher and higher speeds). Hitting the right button at the right time simply unlocks music that real guitarists created using real guitars. Yet the illusion is given that you are actually making the sounds yourself. "It's cracked the code of music playing, giving you the rhythmic, emotional feel you get from playing guitar," says Van Toffler, president of MTV's music group. (MTV liked the game so much that it bought Harmonix, the software company that developed it.) One Guitar Hero junkie, Detroit Tigers reliever Joel Zumaya, spent so many hours playing the game that the resulting wrist inflammation kept him out of three postseason games. And surprisingly, some of the most avid fans of this faux musician exercise are actual musicians; the game is a fixture on tour buses. Ed Robertson, lead guitarist of Barenaked Ladies, recently told The New York Timesthat he was so engrossed in a Guitar Hero solo of "Free Bird" that he barely made it onstage for a real concert. Clearly, Guitar Hero is fun. But by bestowing the rewards of virtuosity to those who haven't spent years to earn it, is it dumbing down musicianship? If a teenager can easily become a make-believe guitar hero, does that mean he won't ever bother to master the real thing? Alex Rigopulos, CEO of Harmonix, says that the intent of Guitar Hero is to provide the thrills of real musicianship to those who would not otherwise have the opportunity. "Almost everyone who takes up guitar quits after a few months," he says. "For me, learning to play the guitar solo to 'Bark at the Moon' would take five years, and even then I couldn't do it right. But spending two or three weeks learning to do it on Guitar Hero is not too much timeand I'll really be able to feel like I'm playing it." In that sense it's no different from other experiences made virtually accessible by the computer, from being a World War II sniper to playing golf like Tiger Woods. What's more, as digital technology becomes deeply integrated into "real" instruments, we can expect the shortcuts to virtuosity that we see in Guitar Hero to become commonplace in music. "One of the issues that musical instruments have is that they're difficult to learn," says Henry Juszkiewicz, CEO of Gibson Guitar, which is aggressively integrating computer technology into new product lines. "Building calluses and painstakingly learning all the musical fingering is not creative, but is the discipline to get the creative rewards ... In the future we want to reduce the crap you have to deal with to allow people access to that creativity." It sounds greatjust as the Devil's offer must have struck Robert Johnson at the crossroads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 he got four out of 20 right. stevie ray vaughn was amazing! Brian May is exceptional. personally, think jimmy page/stairway to heaven is way overrated, but it makes every list. not much of a showman; but i like steve howe (yes). And Gary Richrath of some 70's REO stuff. Gary is probably the most underrated guitarist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I agree Stew! Richrath and Howe are 2 of my all time favorites as well. Rickrath is a great guitarist, especially live! Unfortunately, most people know him from Tuna Fish and later when they were much more pop driven. Nothing more needs to be said about Howe. The guy is as versatile a guitarist as there ever has been in Rock and Roll imho. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascaladan Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 There are so many "Great Ones! I am a huge Satriani fan, as I have stated many times on this and other forums. The latest Joe Satriani "Live" dvd, recorded 2006, shows this guy as a real virtuoso. The sound, to me, is only OK(recording quality, not the playing), unlike his others. But if you watch this man, he can do it all. I am not saying he is my favorite, but he is, for me, up there with the best. Remember, this post was about "watching and listening" to the top 20 guitar performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 There are so many "Great Ones! I am a huge Satriani fan, as I have stated many times on this and other forums. The latest Joe Satriani "Live" dvd, recorded 2006, shows this guy as a real virtuoso. The sound, to me, is only OK(recording quality, not the playing), unlike his others. But if you watch this man, he can do it all. I am not saying he is my favorite, but he is, for me, up there with the best. Remember, this post was about "watching and listening" to the top 20 guitar performances. Joe is a great one always has been, liked the long hair look better though.......another FenderBender..............EH !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I saw Satriani a couple of years ago in a small venue playing with Steve Miller. Very tasty. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I haven't the slightest idea who Chuck Berry is. I grown up with Jimi Hendrix so to me, he is the greatest guitar player the world had ever given us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascaladan Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Many people would agree with that Jimi H was the greatest. He is up there for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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