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Ignore the brands, it makes no difference to me and i really have no choice, just these two.

Computer Number 1

Warranty:Months

Labor/Parts 12/12

Processor Brand AMD®

Processor Type Athlon

Processor Speed (MHz) 1.53

Frontside Bus Speed (MHz) 266

Level 2 Cache (KB) 256KB

RAM (MB) 1GB PC2100 DDR SDRAM

System RAM Expandable To (MB): 1 GB

Hard Drive Maximum Capacity 100GB

CD or DVD DVD

CD-RW Drive YES

Maximum Optical Drive Speeds DVD: 16X Max; CD-RW: 16X Max

Drive Bays Available 1-3.5 inch, 1-5.25 inch

Total Expansion Slots 5 PCI; 1 AGP

Available Expansion Slots 3 PCI

Keyboard Compaq USB Internet Keyboard

Pointing Device Internet Scroll Mouse

USB Ports 4 (2 front, 2 back)

IEEE 1394 Port 3 (1 front, 2 back)

Parallel Port 1 EPP/ECP

Serial Port 2

Other Ports 2 PS/2 ports, 2 RJ-11 ports, 1 VGA port, 5 Audio ports ( 1 line-in, 2 line-out, 1 digital-out, 1 microphone)

Video Memory 64MB

MPEG Playback YES

3D Graphics Support SDR nVIDIA GeForce2 MX with TV-Out

Modem V.90 High-Speed Modem

Network Interface Card (NIC) YES

Other Communication Features None

Audio Card SoundBlaster Live Value 5.1

Wavetable Sound NO

Sound Enhancements None

Speakers Not Included

Speakers Included In Box or With Monitor? With Monitor

Operating System and Vendor Utility Software Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition

Productivity Software Included Microsoft® Money 2001, Microsoft® Works 6.0, Microsoft Media Player 8.0, Quicken Financial Center/Quicken New User Edition, Norton Internet Security 2002, Compaq Knowledge Center

Internet Software Included Microsoft® Internet Explorer 6.0, NetScape 6.0, America Online 6.0

Educational/Entertainment Software Included Microsoft® Encarta® Online Deluxe (1 year subscription), Studio DV Editing software, Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.1, Coloreal Color Management Technology software

Note: Monitor and Speakers Sold Separately. Circuit City is an authorized Compaq computer products Internet retailer.

Other Features 10/100 Ethernet PCI Card, SDR nVidia GeForce2 MX Graphics Card, SoundBlaster Live Value 5.1 Soundcard

Computer Number 2

Specification

HP Pavilion Desktop Computer

Warranty:Months

Labor/Parts 12/12

Processor Brand Intel®

Processor Type Pentium® 4

Processor Speed (MHz) 2.0GHz

Frontside Bus Speed (MHz) 400

Level 2 Cache (KB) 256KB

RAM (MB) 512MB SDRAM

System RAM Expandable To (MB): 1 GB

Hard Drive Maximum Capacity 80GB UltraDMA

CD or DVD DVD

CD-RW Drive YES

Maximum Optical Drive Speeds DVD: 16X Max, CD-RW: 32X Max Read, 12X Max Write, 8X Max Rewrite

Drive Bays Available 1 (3.5 inch)

Total Expansion Slots 3 PCI

Available Expansion Slots 1 PCI

Keyboard HP Illuminated Internet Command Center - one-touch Internet keyboard with 2 USB ports

Pointing Device USB Optical Scrolling Mouse

USB Ports 6 total (2 front, 2 back, and 2 on the keyboard)

IEEE 1394 Port 3 (1 front, 2 back)

Parallel Port 1

Serial Port 2 (1 front access)

Other Ports

Video Memory 32MB SDRAM

MPEG Playback MPEG2

3D Graphics Support nVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 AGP Graphics Card

Modem V.90 High-Speed Modem

Network Interface Card (NIC) YES

Other Communication Features None

Audio Card Crystal CS4299 3D PCI Audio

Wavetable Sound NO

Sound Enhancements None

Speakers Polk Audio Stereo Speakers With PowerPort Technology

Speakers Included In Box or With Monitor? In Box

Operating System and Vendor Utility Software Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition

Productivity Software Included Microsoft Money 2001 Standard, ArcSoft My Photo Center, Intuit Quicken® Financial Center 2001, Quicken® New Users Edition 2001, Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 5.0, Microsoft Works 6.0, Pinnacle Systems Studio DV 7.0

Internet Software Included CompuServe® 2000, EarthLink, AT&T WorldNet®, Sprint ION, AOL, Prodigy DSL, MSN

Educational/Entertainment Software Included Microsoft® Encarta® 2001 Encyclopedia Deluxe Online(1 year subscription), HP Learning Adventures, HP RecordNow, MusicMatch Jukebox 6.1

Note: Monitor Sold Separately

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Please don't consider the brand and i HAVE to get one of these, can't build becuase i have a credit there and these are the two best computers they have at circuit city. which would you get based on mostly ram, processor, hard drive, and video card? i don't need a sound card, all ready have that. not on looks eigther... Smile.gif just the computer, also, software is not important. basically on hardware. thanks.

This message has been edited by justin_tx_16 on 12-11-2001 at 07:51 PM

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PC number 1 takes the win

None of the two are well balanced,I mean come on what is the bull MX cards doing with a big Athlon XP or P4 systems? WHAT THE...

I have a Athlon XP1900 with 1GB of DDR and it has a ASUS GF3 Ti500,four SCSI 160 hard drives(both 10 and 15K)and 120GB of storage via Seagate IDE drives on a Promise RAID.

And Swiftech MC462 cooler with Delta turbine Smile.gif

The SCSI drives are on a Adaptec 39160.

This system flies,its a rocket.

GEAT AT LEAST A GF2 DDR 64,any MX is plain pathetic unless you dont play games.Or a GF3 Ti200 GREAT BUY!

TheEAR(s) Now theears

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Thanks ear for the reply! So i will go for the Compaq. I am gonna get it tonight i hope. Yeah, i really don't play games, i will get into the habit for a while but it does off fast. thanks again for the reply. Smile.gif

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I am an amateur, if it is professional;

ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665

Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH

RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150

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Almost forgot no ANSWERING MACHINE has any time to play computer games. Smile.gif

The Athlon XP system will outperform the P4 in most apps.

You should enjoy Athlon XP power,I sure do.I have the P4 and Athon XP and the XP is my top choice.Raw torque

TheEAR(s) Now theears

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Well, it has been delayed... I have a credit there of about $2199, that is at Circuit City. I will ge tthe ocmputer sometime in the next two weeks... could be as early as tommorrow when my credit is activated... a very long story! LoL!

Maybe they will comeout with something new till then. Any idea on what i can spend the rest of the money on? i will have somewheres of about $400 left over to spend at Circuit City. Don't need a moniter, maybe the Nomad 20GB jukebox... Smile.gif

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-justin

I am an amateur, if it is professional;

ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665

Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH

RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150

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how would i get credit transfered from Circuit city to another?

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-justin

I am an amateur, if it is professional;

ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665

Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH

RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150

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IE he returned something and has store credit.

I would say that Comp 1 is better.. AMD and all.. lots of ram. but it should be fine. Word to the wise.. after ya find that it is in good working condition and all.. format and reinstall windows with only what You need.. get all the sheet that those companies put on that you dont really need. This all depends on how it is to you tho.. but Frankly, most of the compaq, hp, etc that I have seen have the taks bar filled with junk.

anyhoo.. GF3 Ti200 are nice cards. Im still running mt GF2GTS and it works fine

Ear, seems like you got a little carried away with your system.. well, it isn't my money so Rock On!!

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1GHz TBird @ 1096MHz

Abit KT7A-RAID

Kingmax 256MB PC150 256MB PC133 Infinion

Annihilator2 32MB GT§ 230/354

Intel Pro100+Management NIC

Promise Ultra100

IBM 75GXP 45GB ATA100 Maxtor DMP6800 27.2GB ATA66

Plextor 16X10X40A §ony 12X DVD

§BLive! 5.1

AOpen HX08 Full Tower 300W

§ony CPD-G400 19" Triny

ProMedia 4.1

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thanks for the reply... it may be after new years beforei get to pick it up... just too busy to deal with it... maybe something new will be out anyways! Smile.gif

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-justin

I am an amateur, if it is professional;

ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665

Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH

RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150

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this one hurts.but comp 1 also.

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tornado 1000, 300w ps

epox 8kha+

xp1600+@1.64

pal6035, delta bl

512mb case2 pc2400

radeon 8500

75 gxp 45gig

sony 48x,plextor 12/10/32

sbl value

opti v95

v2-400's (looks like the pro's outlasted another system :))

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I am a computer technician and my advice is that if the computers are a Compaq Presario or an HP Pavillion Choose Neither ! . If on the other hand they are not a Pavillion or a Presario go with unit # 1. Both Compaq and HP make solid business oriented machines. Unfortunately their home user machines are garbage.

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I only have two choices, those! LoL! or a Sony VAIO, not gonna make that mistake again LoL!

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-justin

I am an amateur, if it is professional;

ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665

Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH

RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150

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#1 ... solely because you get double the RAM and it's DDR on top of that.

BUT I would suggest building your own. I'd never buy proprietary again ('cept maybe IBM Intellistation Z-Pro; work paid for that). I'd look at what you really want out of a system, component-by-component and go from there.

When you get down to it, all you are really buying from these proprietary companies is some software, and a crap mobo + case. Oh, and loads of integrated systemware. Blah. cwm22.gif

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SMI SiS 645 Ultra

Intel P4 1.8GHz

Corsair 512MB DDR333

IBM Deskstar 80GB 7200RPM

Gainward GF2 Ti-500XP

SB Audigy Plat Ex - Klipsch PM 5.1

Plextor 24x10x40; Sony 52x

C.Labs 56k v92 =)

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once again, i have to buy the computer from circuit city, can't spend the money on anything but the computer. but i am going to put this off maybe a year so i cna get the most up to date stuff for college

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-justin

I am an amateur, if it is professional;

ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 or for an RA# 1-888-554-5665

Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH

RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150

ProMedia 5.1 Placement Help s>

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