Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 Wow. Brings back memories. I bought baggie-sealed original 6-eye 1A pressing of Kind of Blue from Leon Levitt about 15 years ago--paid what was then a bundle for it. It took me about 12 seconds to open it and slap it on the table once I had it home. I still have it. I still play iit. And the best part is that it's MONO--thost masters were ALWAYS the right speed!! Allan, Actually, it was your post a while back that prompted my post. Someone (thebes?) posted something alongs the lines of we needed to quit being soft and go ahead and be men about opening SS lp's. You posted a photo, I believe of your KOB that you had opened, and played countless times since then, without looking back. For some reason I had some hesitation in opening these two up. Not really a money thing, as I posted above, the premium is not nearly what it would be for an LP. By the way, I here is a photo of my mono LP., this was in near mint and has this in the trail off wax-XLP47325-1AA on side one, and -1AJ on side two. I have another copy that has XLP47325-1BA on side 1 and -1BJ on side 2. They are in blocked letter, not hand written. Can you tell me what the numbers mean? I am looking for a stereo now to complete things. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, I have a few I wish I had kept sealed but have many I'm glad I opened. It really depends on how much enjoyment you think you'll get out of them. I've opened quite a few sealed MFSLs and original pressings that I've played many times. You can't put a price on enjoyment. Others that I rarely play could have been sold for quite a bit and the money used to buy others that I'd get more enjoyment from. IMO, that's the question you have have to ask yourself. First though, you have to find out how much they're worth sealed vs opened. I think you are right, the enjoyment way outweighs any price difference, which with R2R is not near as much as with LP's. I don't really buy to collect anyway, I buy to listen. But, as I said in response to Allen, for some reason there was just some hesitation with these two for some reason. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted April 22, 2007 Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, You only live once...open the darn things and enjoy. BTW, did you ever get any speakers to replace your Khorns?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 Leaving it sealed is like, Having a beautiful naked woman in bed, and not touching her.!!!!!!!!! If your into music to make money, your into it for the wrong reasons.......................Oh Oh, it's 4:19 am................ I can't relate to that (I always touched), do you have another analogy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 By the way, I here is a photo of my mono LP., this was in near mint and has this in the trail off wax-XLP47325-1AA on side one, and -1AJ on side two. I have another copy that has XLP47325-1BA on side 1 and -1BJ on side 2. They are in blocked letter, not hand written. Can you tell me what the numbers mean? I am looking for a stereo now to complete things. Travis I am no expert when it comes to Columbia pressings, but what I've learned from the late Leon Levitt and more recently from Jack Seaton, every time Columbia made a new stamper they changed the matrix number. The first pressing of any title would have "1-A" at the end of the matrix, second pressings would end with 1-B. So one of yours comes from the first run and another comes from the second. The true "First" pressing end it 1-A with no second letter. Every time a stamper was used they added a letter, so 1-A for the first run, 1-AB for the second, etc. Not sure how many in a run, but someone told me only a few hundred at most, so the 1-A pressing is like one of a few hundred--or so I've been told. What I don't understand is that you see some copies with 1-BA on one side an 1-BJ on the other, with doens't jibe with this info. Suffice it to say, 1-A pressings are "first" pressings and 1-B are second. But, as Miles might have said, "So What?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Photo size Sorry Travis. Didn't mean to single you out, just happened to be on your post when I blew a fuse. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me Loves Khorns Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 One day, when you are really, really old, lost you hearing and stuff. Will you: 1. Be so glad you made a little bit of cabbage by not openning... As if you would really turn around and sell anyway! 2. Remember the time you ripped em open and let em blast! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 By the way, I here is a photo of my mono LP., this was in near mint and has this in the trail off wax-XLP47325-1AA on side one, and -1AJ on side two. I have another copy that has XLP47325-1BA on side 1 and -1BJ on side 2. They are in blocked letter, not hand written. Can you tell me what the numbers mean? I am looking for a stereo now to complete things. Travis I am no expert when it comes to Columbia pressings, but what I've learned from the late Leon Levitt and more recently from Jack Seaton, every time Columbia made a new stamper they changed the matrix number. The first pressing of any title would have "1-A" at the end of the matrix, second pressings would end with 1-B. So one of yours comes from the first run and another comes from the second. The true "First" pressing end it 1-A with no second letter. Every time a stamper was used they added a letter, so 1-A for the first run, 1-AB for the second, etc. Not sure how many in a run, but someone told me only a few hundred at most, so the 1-A pressing is like one of a few hundred--or so I've been told. What I don't understand is that you see some copies with 1-BA on one side an 1-BJ on the other, with doens't jibe with this info. Suffice it to say, 1-A pressings are "first" pressings and 1-B are second. But, as Miles might have said, "So What?" I thought there was always a second letter because that denoted the plant, New York, Nashville, Los Angeles, etc. You learn something new everyday. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 You could be right about the pressing plant being the second letter.. Like I said, I don't know very much about Columbia pressings--just what I've heard from others in passing. Now, ask me about Blue Notes and Contemporarys I can speak with confidence. I just looked at my mono KOB--no second letter, 1-A on both sides. I pulled out my Stereo copy-- 1-AC on side one, 1-B on side two. WTF? Somebody somewhere knows the answer I am sure. All I know is that the mono KOB sounds way, way better than the stereo version!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Leaving it sealed is like, Having a beautiful naked woman in bed, and not touching her.!!!!!!!!! If your into music to make money, your into it for the wrong reasons.......................Oh Oh, it's 4:19 am................ I can't relate to that (I always touched), do you have another analogy? OPEN THE TAPE AND PLAY IT !...................How's that analogy ?....or...Having a pack of cigarettes in your pocket, and not smoking them !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, How much are they worth sealed vs how much are they worth opened? If it's substantial, you might save them for someone who collects these sort of things for collectors value as opposed to someone like yourself that just wants to spin some reels. By the way, I finally picked off a Tandberg. Won't see it for a few days. Scott, That is great on the Tandberg!!!!!! You can get in the tape exchange for round 2 which will be starting up in about a month. Which model did you get? As you know, it is one of my favorite sounding decks. I don't think there is a better sounding reproducing deck out there. I am trying to remember, is this one from the friend of yours that wasn't willing to let it go? Travis That's pretty cool about your 300+ collection. That's quite a few. Back when I had my TEAC, I used to look for pre recorded rock reels, they're almost all 31/2 speed which I thought was a bummer. In any event, I bought a TD20A based on your reccomendation. It could be very nice or could be a lemon. The seller wasn't an audio person. She did have it professionally packed and shipped though. I'll know for sure next week. Would love to be in on the tape swap although I don't have much to swap at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, How much are they worth sealed vs how much are they worth opened? If it's substantial, you might save them for someone who collects these sort of things for collectors value as opposed to someone like yourself that just wants to spin some reels. By the way, I finally picked off a Tandberg. Won't see it for a few days. Scott, That is great on the Tandberg!!!!!! You can get in the tape exchange for round 2 which will be starting up in about a month. Which model did you get? As you know, it is one of my favorite sounding decks. I don't think there is a better sounding reproducing deck out there. I am trying to remember, is this one from the friend of yours that wasn't willing to let it go? Travis That's pretty cool about your 300+ collection. That's quite a few. Back when I had my TEAC, I used to look for pre recorded rock reels, they're almost all 31/2 speed which I thought was a bummer. In any event, I bought a TD20A based on your reccomendation. It could be very nice or could be a lemon. The seller wasn't an audio person. She did have it professionally packed and shipped though. I'll know for sure next week. Would love to be in on the tape swap although I don't have much to swap at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 You could be right about the pressing plant being the second letter.. Like I said, I don't know very much about Columbia pressings--just what I've heard from others in passing. Now, ask me about Blue Notes and Contemporarys I can speak with confidence. I just looked at my mono KOB--no second letter, 1-A on both sides. I pulled out my Stereo copy-- 1-AC on side one, 1-B on side two. WTF? Somebody somewhere knows the answer I am sure. All I know is that the mono KOB sounds way, way better than the stereo version!! Thanks Allen, I wasnt' sure on those numbers, I was not able to find much with google about Columbia matrix numbers. I think I will quit looking for the stereo KOB based on your impressions and it looks like I am going to pop the top on the KOB R2R.I love the sound of my mono lp as well. Not a pop or a click, dead quiet lead in, blows away the special edition CD. I sent you an email about a different subject Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 As of 6 pm CT the results are as follows: Yes, open them up. Music isn't to look at, it is to be played and enjoyed (81.8%) No, are you crazy, those could really be worth something someday, get the CD instead (4.5%) No, I don't care for Jazz, you should trade them for some killer rock (9.1%) I forgot the question, it was 420 appreciation day on Friday dude (4.5%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted April 22, 2007 Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 So, Travis, did you open them up and listen yet? Or did you forget where you put them because "it was 420 appreciation day on Friday"?[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflash Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 travis, i would open it and enjoy it because that what is was made for. when i got back into vinyl last october i opened up 7 boxes of albums that i had not listened to in about 15 years. I kind of forgot what I had. i had a sealed MFSL Sgt Pepper by the Beatles. It took me about 20 seconds to decide to open it and play it. i also had 5 springsteen, an import copy of The Wall and about 10 more albums all sealed. The have all been played. I guess I was getting into CD's back then and I would by the CD and the album. I would play the CD and I guess I forgot about the album. play them, enjoy them and don't look back. danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 travis, i would open it and enjoy it because that what is was made for. when i got back into vinyl last october i opened up 7 boxes of albums that i had not listened to in about 15 years. I kind of forgot what I had. i had a sealed MFSL Sgt Pepper by the Beatles. It took me about 20 seconds to decide to open it and play it. i also had 5 springsteen, an import copy of The Wall and about 10 more albums all sealed. The have all been played. I guess I was getting into CD's back then and I would by the CD and the album. I would play the CD and I guess I forgot about the album. play them, enjoy them and don't look back. danny Well DB, After reading yours and Allen's post, they are now both open and I am playing OP first. Sounds mighty nice. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 travis, i would open it and enjoy it because that what is was made for. when i got back into vinyl last october i opened up 7 boxes of albums that i had not listened to in about 15 years. I kind of forgot what I had. i had a sealed MFSL Sgt Pepper by the Beatles. It took me about 20 seconds to decide to open it and play it. i also had 5 springsteen, an import copy of The Wall and about 10 more albums all sealed. The have all been played. I guess I was getting into CD's back then and I would by the CD and the album. I would play the CD and I guess I forgot about the album. play them, enjoy them and don't look back. danny Well DB, After reading yours and Allen's post, they are now both open and I am playing OP first. Sounds mighty nice. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I would bang the hot chick in OB's bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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