Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 21, 2007 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2007 I saw that that some people were putting up polls, and also asking for advice about things as which speakers to trade in. I have been staring at these two still sealed classics, especially the Mile Davis, and wondering if I should open them up and play them. I am dying to know if the Miles Davis is at regular or high speed, should be normal speed because the cutting lathe was the thing that was spining too fast on the original lps. The box has been opened but the tape is still sealed in the original plastic package, never opened, the Oscar Peterson is still compleately sealed. Anyhow, I will go with whatever gets the most votes. [poll] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 21, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2007 Here is the Miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 21, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2007 Here is the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Travis, How much are they worth sealed vs how much are they worth opened? If it's substantial, you might save them for someone who collects these sort of things for collectors value as opposed to someone like yourself that just wants to spin some reels. By the way, I finally picked off a Tandberg. Won't see it for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 WOW- beautiful, I wonder what big tape like that sounds like? Is it usually half track 7 1/2 ips? I think the last advice was correct. What is the estimated value pre/post open and played? They you have something to mull over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted April 21, 2007 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2007 It was a hard decision between the first choice and the last, but chose the first ! But it may be smart to find out what it's worth first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 One more time. PLEASE resize your photo's before posting - some of us are on dialup. Huge photos take forever to load and the forum software is just going to shrink them once they finally load anyway, so there is no reason to post anything larger than 640 x 480 pixels. It's gotten to the point that I simply exit the thread rather than wait for these damn things to load. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinerman Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 IMHO, as a true music lover, as I know you are as well. I would opt for the opening and enjoying of a true legend. But that's just my opinion!! By the way, Khorns are sounding utterly fantastic [Y] and rose bushes are waiting to be planted . Have a wonderful listening evening, I am!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, I have a few I wish I had kept sealed but have many I'm glad I opened. It really depends on how much enjoyment you think you'll get out of them. I've opened quite a few sealed MFSLs and original pressings that I've played many times. You can't put a price on enjoyment. Others that I rarely play could have been sold for quite a bit and the money used to buy others that I'd get more enjoyment from. IMO, that's the question you have have to ask yourself. First though, you have to find out how much they're worth sealed vs opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Wow. Brings back memories. I bought baggie-sealed original 6-eye 1A pressing of Kind of Blue from Leon Levitt about 15 years ago--paid what was then a bundle for it. It took me about 12 seconds to open it and slap it on the table once I had it home. I still have it. I still play iit. And the best part is that it's MONO--thost masters were ALWAYS the right speed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 My gosh, I have a small bookcase of prerecorded 7" 4-track RTR's like that, and memories is right! Early 1960's. Those were almost always 7.5 ips by the time 4-track settled in except for a few 3.75 issues, in the same type of cover. Unfortunately mine are too hissy, possibly because I once stored them on the other side of a wall from the magnetic field of one of my K-horn woofers. Goes without saying the larger is an LP, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Leaving it sealed is like, Having a beautiful naked woman in bed, and not touching her.!!!!!!!!! If your into music to make money, your into it for the wrong reasons.......................Oh Oh, it's 4:19 am................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Heck, I see you just bought these on ebay. Now that I see what they're worth(not that much), open them up and play away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Leaving it sealed is like, Having a beautiful naked woman in bed, and not touching her.!!!!!!!!! If your into music to make money, your into it for the wrong reasons.......................Oh Oh, it's 4:19 am................ LOL, OB! Correction: It's like having a beautiful clothed woman in bed with you...[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMays Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Leaving it sealed is like, Having a beautiful naked woman in bed, and not touching her.!!!!!!!!! If your into music to make money, your into it for the wrong reasons.......................Oh Oh, it's 4:19 am................ LOL, OB! Correction: It's like having a beautiful clothed woman in bed with you...[] That's what I was thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, How much are they worth sealed vs how much are they worth opened? If it's substantial, you might save them for someone who collects these sort of things for collectors value as opposed to someone like yourself that just wants to spin some reels. By the way, I finally picked off a Tandberg. Won't see it for a few days. Scott, I collect them, I'm up to about 300, I am trying to get every one of the Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums that were available in prerecorded R2R. Miles Davis, like ******* Brew and KOB go sealed for $200 to $300, that is sealed on the outside. In Mint- condition they will go 100 to 150. However, like with anything on ebay, it just depends on how you have bidding. A KOB recently sold for about $100 that was in terrible condition that belonged to a public library. I have never seen one where the box was opened but the inside sealed bag was unopened. It is unheard of. I paid about 120.00 for it, and if it was listed properly on Ebay it would probably fetch $150 to 175. The price of tapes is going up fast, they are not the big secret they used to be. A still sealed Love-Forever Changes (which is in the Top 500 list) went for some big money recently, I was outbid at 250 and it went for somethig slightly over that. However, an open box of Forever Changes that was in good condition went for close to 200. There does not seem to be the big premium there is with still sealed in R2R that there is in lp's. The OP I just simply stole on ebay. No one was paying attention or the Jazz guys already had it. It usually sells for $35 in good shape, might get 50 sealed, so not a lot of premium there either. So I would say money is not really the issue on it, there is some premium, but not enough, at this point, to hold back simply because it is worth a little more. I just got them on Thursday and Friday and had them in line with about 5 or 6 others that came in and I thought, am I really going to open these up? So far, the strong consensus is to open em and let 'er rip, that and the last choice where the question was forgotten. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 Travis, How much are they worth sealed vs how much are they worth opened? If it's substantial, you might save them for someone who collects these sort of things for collectors value as opposed to someone like yourself that just wants to spin some reels. By the way, I finally picked off a Tandberg. Won't see it for a few days. Scott, That is great on the Tandberg!!!!!! You can get in the tape exchange for round 2 which will be starting up in about a month. Which model did you get? As you know, it is one of my favorite sounding decks. I don't think there is a better sounding reproducing deck out there. I am trying to remember, is this one from the friend of yours that wasn't willing to let it go? Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 WOW- beautiful, I wonder what big tape like that sounds like? Is it usually half track 7 1/2 ips? I think the last advice was correct. What is the estimated value pre/post open and played? They you have something to mull over. Michael, The KOB is stereo and was manuf in 1963 so it is 4 track, and it is high speed 7.5 IPS. The reel is 7" The two track consumer prerecorded ended in about 58 or '59. Those are incredible sounding tapes by the way. The head and tape technology in the early 60's was so much improved that the high speed 4 tracks had better S/N and freq. response then the 2 track tapes of the 50's and that was the reason for the switch. EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT AND RESIZED TO 640 X 480, even a blind pig can find an acorn once in awhile. PHOTO SIZE: Michael, you recently posted how to reduce the size on photos, my photo editor does not allow resizing without paying for the full version of it. I thought you posted something about microsoft having a free download, or a size function as part of the MS picture viewer. Can you tell me what I need to do to shrink my photos and what size I need to select from the size options? I got my first photo size compliant. I thought that they were small enough, I was selecting the small size which is 640 x 480 but it looks like I was one off so they are 1600 x 1200. Is 640 by 480 small enough to not have to resize? Travis Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 One more time. PLEASE resize your photo's before posting - some of us are on dialup. Huge photos take forever to load and the forum software is just going to shrink them once they finally load anyway, so there is no reason to post anything larger than 640 x 480 pixels. It's gotten to the point that I simply exit the thread rather than wait for these damn things to load. James Sorry James, Operator error. I normally shoot things are know are going to go on the forum at 640 x 480 but I was one off on my size selection so I thing these are 1600 by 1200. I sent a reply to our resident phot expert asking him to respost how to resize with the software that comes with Windows so I can shrink them. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2007 IMHO, as a true music lover, as I know you are as well. I would opt for the opening and enjoying of a true legend. But that's just my opinion!! By the way, Khorns are sounding utterly fantastic [Y] and rose bushes are waiting to be planted . Have a wonderful listening evening, I am!! Shinerman, I am really glad to hear that you are enjoying those KHorns. It was really tough to let them go, but I am glad they went to a forum member and I am glad to know that someone is going to get a lot of enjoyment out of them. How is your new listening/HT room coming along? I can't wait to see photos of those subs you no longer need with roses planted in them[] Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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