Travis In Austin

Forget snark, it doesn't take 20,000 words to make a point, unless you're a lawyer making BIG MONEY being paid by the word. (no offense intended, Mr. DWI Lawyer) None taken,Mr Gokdberg went to Harvard, he represents the Pats and the Red Sox and charges $800 per hour.I just thought it was interesting that some of his remarks were considered to be snarky.

In general we are trying to apply criteria to identify innovative albums that potentially changed the "face" of rock & roll music and had a great influence on artists that followed similar to the video in the OP link describes and ruling out artists with singles and no focus on albums. Overall, I'm not sure that general platitudes of critical acclaim by questionable beat writers and internet polls capturing bands that are popular with a large fan base alone would get them on my list of groundbreaking and influential albums. I would hope not, especially coming from you. I always look to you for the truth. Thanks, I think? Seriously, I've always enjoyed your writing in how you examine all sides of an issue. In my current role, while I cannot go into much detail, I have to recognize my own bias (which is not always easy to do) and try to mitigate it and "test" my conclusions and often times those conclusions of our teams through challenging them from very different perspectives to see how "scalable" they are and how well they hold up to scrutiny as there always seems to be some type of attack on integrity and the amount of due diligence that went into the decision making process. I meant that sincerely, especially in topics where you have posted on economics, accounting, finance, public filings, etc. It all jives with what I was taught, and long forgotten when I got my Business/Accounting degree.

So how long did Senator Paul last night? I watched until about 10 pm central time last night. He was getting help with other Senators asking him questions, but you stilk cannot sit down or have restroom break, but you can stretch and lean against desk off camera.

First the bikers being killed in Waco, and now this? What the heck is going on in Waco? (I'll respect your need to keep confidentiality here, as I realize you may be involved in any of several different ways) I represent police officers involved in police shootings. It was because of the biker incident that I was there, several officers discharged their weapons. I can't say much more than that at this point.

Another possible topic for WVU to post, Top 10 LP's that Influenced You Personally? First LP (s) you bought.

In general we are trying to apply criteria to identify innovative albums that potentially changed the "face" of rock & roll music and had a great influence on artists that followed similar to the video in the OP link describes and ruling out artists with singles and no focus on albums. Overall, I'm not sure that general platitudes of critical acclaim by questionable beat writers and internet polls capturing bands that are popular with a large fan base alone would get them on my list of groundbreaking and influential albums. I would hope not, especially coming from you. I always look to you for the truth.

Whatever YOU decide is important qualifies. People have expressed WHY things are important to them in this thread and it has been very informative and enlightening. I, like others, have reconsidered many of the lps people have discussed as being "important."

Pet Sounds, other than maybe Buddy Holly, is probably the single , influential of all of them in my opinion. It really is Brian Wilson, but the Beach Boys get to come along for the ride. I can here Pet Sounds tracks in many, many songs. harmonies, keys, major chords, minor chords. Most of all, Wilson transformed the studio and recording process to a completely different level. He took the pioneering work of Les Paul and with his genius turned it into what would be the standard for the modern multitrack recording process. It is not the Beach Boys that were influential, it was Pet Sounds, the work of Wilson, that is what was influential and griund breaking. People have expressed why it was so ground breaking far better than I can, some of which has been posted, but I like this article. http://mentalfloss.com/article/59457/15-facts-about-pet-sounds On Elvis, as a performer, he is probably the most influential artist of all time. I am not sure an lp captures it. Early Beatles are certainly Rock for that period of time and not Pop. Pop at that time was Pat Boone. They went into pop later on, because Rock took over Pop. To this day, Rock is the biggest selling genre of music soldnin the US. Which makesnine wonder why they stip call Pop, Popular. Rock is the most popular music purchased. Here is the link on Pet Sounds. I have really enjoyed reading the comments ALL have posted here. I have reevaluated several lps that have been mentioned in this thread. I hope WVU continues this kind of discussion with new threads every week or so, Top 10 Prog Rock Albums, Top Live Rock Lps, Top 10 Debut Rock Lps, Top Ten (whatever Anyine is interested in talking about). Travis

Currently, he just don't sing. He don't even talk on stage, zero, not one word when I saw him a couple of weeks ago. Here is interview with Clapton about Jeff Beck's singing, or his lack thereof. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eric-clapton-on-jeff-becks-singing-and-having-an-old-mans-voice-20100219

Looking forward to hopefully talking with you more about this in greater detail. Travis

Where is that again? Specifically the sex life specs. It's not for me you understand, it is for a friend.

Jeffm I agree, some big ones there. I love supertramp, and Rumors is a great lp. But as far as the one that is really influential, I am going to have to go with AC/DC. I have to figure what I woukd cut to put that in.

"It seems that any of the below could be inserted somewhere in the list above....." I agree, but you have to keep it to ten, what are you going to cut and why? "Deep Purple – Machine Head was one of those albums that were instrumental in laying the foundation for heavy metal." I woild agree on this and cut the Black Sabbath, the Zeppelin stays." "Pearl Jam – Ten was the original grunge album before it caught on and has spawned classics still getting radio time today." I don't know enough about who influenced who in this sub-genre, so I would defer and cut Nirvana." "Michael Jackson - Thriller as it must have spawned something?" I would say tons, but he is Pop, not rock, and so I have chosen to block out music that is not clearly rock, so this a Brubeck, although one of my favorites, i will save when we do a jazz list. ÑThe Ramones - The Ramones had to be the fathers of punk rock." Also a favorite, Rocket to Russia. However, my personal understanding of how punk got to be is by listening to Garage in the 60s like the Seeds, then MC5, and then, the real inventers of US punk, the Stooges/Iggy Pop. From there you get the Ramines, Patty Smith, X, LA, Dead Kennedys, and beyond. "The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street that paired the great Keith Richards on his five-string rhythm guitar and the blues sound of Mick Taylor." I agree 100% Dave Brubeck - Take Five is probably what brought Jazz into the mainstream. Grateful Dead - Live-Dead showed us how music could be created on stage rather than in the studio. A tough one, they certainly spun off a lot current bands at the Time, New Ryders, International Submarine, and beyond. Are they a top ten? The Doors - The Doors debut album sure was a hypnotic experience with front man Jim Morrison. My favorite band of all time. Did they influence anyone? Not what people listened to, everbody listened to them, what where you can hear them in the music, or even songing style? Great comments you have, and manny, manny things to think about.

Perhaps... It could also be that they want more hits and were being provocative to get them.Never mind.... It was (partially) a popularity contest of subscribers at watchmojo.com http://watchmojo.com/suggest/Top+10+Most+Important+Albums+in+Rock+History I don't think it much matters that the list is from their web pape members, it is a great list to start with and get the discussion rolling. After me beat this list to death we can post another one done by music critics and musicians like the Rolling Stone lists. They provide explorations as to why they are where they are and I think woukd require more thought and reflection as to one something is not in the top ten, etc. I hope we can continue with the great thoughts I have already seen in here to seenwhere it takes us, and try a new list. I prefer this type of discussion over any other here, except in the few rare instances that I can provide some advice or help to another member. Travis

One of my all time favorite groups, along with Marshal Tucker, Outlaws. Molly H, CDB, Wet Willie, ABB. Many might ont agree with me on this. I see the progression as first Country Rock, Sir Douglas Quinter, the Byrds with Gram Parsons, Gram with Mick and Keef on Exile, Flying Burrito Brothers. From there you have both ZZ Top come out in 69, and CCR had many southern,swamp rock songs. From there LS evolves, ADD band goes from R&B to blues jam band to southern rock. Mojo lists them very high in their main book, but I am guessing not to influential.

I don’t know, maybe the "B" movie industry as I seem to think of Elvis more in the context of Viva Las Vegas; Blue Hawaii; Girls! Girls! Girls!; Paradise Hawaiian Style; The Trouble with Girls; G.I. Blues; among many other movies ……. His first LP, Elvis by RCA was all covers, like Carl Perkins' Blue Swede Shoes, Little Richard, etc. I don't know that his music influenced anyone musically. It obviously influenced his fans immensely.

MTV started in 80 or 81, i think about maybe 10 percent of homes had it, but they woukd actually play music back then. I dont think they started to have influence until mid 80s, so all but 2 predate MTV crowd. However when one of the key criteria is "influence" the older lps have a much better chance of doing that. You notice Mojo doesn't really try to bring Rap and Hip Hop into the mix, they are primarily a classic rock type of publicatoob for the British market. N I t sure when video was dated, lets say a year old, I woukd be interested to see what the rock lps of the 80s, 90s and 2000 were influential, and I know there are many many. Any suggestions?

Frampton Comes Alive was a very influential lp for me, I was at the concert in 75 at Winterland where was of the material is from. No doubt a major breakthrough for Frampton after leaving Humble Pie and having first 2 or 3 lps do nothing really and then chart for 2 years and be, to that sate, biggest selling live album. I don't see his influence on others, and other big lives albums had already come out, just not near the sames of that thing. BB King Live at the Regal, Johnny Cash, Folsom Prison with documentary movie. Monterey Pop Sound track, Woodstock ST, Newport Folk ST, etc. In my top 50 for sure. I have another Beatles lp I would prefer, but if can't all agree I can live with SPLHCB as a compromise.

Thanks again for the list, I am not sure what their exact criteria is, I did hear "most influential" but not sure about much more than that so if there are factos I missed it could change things a bit. I grew up in California, that lp came out while I was in High School, and we would see them live 2 or 3x a year. Very influential for me. But their music derives from Country Rock and the influence and origin of that is the Byrds. It influenced the Eagles and the Doobies, and you add in the influence that Linda had on the Eagles, I don't see it is influential as some of the others. A great lp, I think Hotel was the resuted if the rift in the band whether they were going to continue more countey, like Desparado, or go more rock which had been stewing since on the Border when they fired Glyn Johns. Leadon was out and Walsh was in on Guitar. It was groundbreaking for them, only one J.D. Souther song, but I don't know who was influenced by that particular lp.

Ok, ten minutes of video, I would list them out to get more response, anyone younger than 40 has a 3 minute attention span or what you can fit in 140 characters. EDIT 2: Thank you Mustang Guy I have Mojos first book that rates rock lps from 50s up to when it was published which I think was about 2000. They are a British publication focusing on classic rock but I found some real gems in their pages, both American abd British bands. Whenever a video segment begins by making apologies for not including Buddy Holly you know it is downhill from there. He does in fact have two very solid albums, one as a Cricket, one solo. The list fails right there, especially since one of it's main premises is being influential." However, that being said I do agree with about half of them. I won't get into the order, you could debate the ranking forever and get nowhere. I agree with DSOM, Pet Sounds, London Calling, that a Dylan in there, not sure it should be Hwy 61 but they set up criteria so I can live wiyh that, same for Nirvana, and Velvet Underground. EDIT 3. VU isn't even on the list, I must have hallucinated that banna cover, so much for my list. Zeppelin 4 is a no brainer, Sgt. Pepper's I can live with but would not be my first choice. Exile would be in top 10, it is a sin that it is an "honorable mention." That is 8 out of 10 so I agree with a majority of what they say. The other 2 are top 100 lps, as are the other honorable mentions. Pretty good list, an even better topic and thread. Travis Edit: Forgit Hendrix which I completely agree with, so now I am at 9 out of 11 I think, now I have to cut one.

I rated this topic 5 Stars. Looking at list now, will supplement.

You noticed! I sincerely apologize my friend for glossing over it. I was in Waco Sunday and Monday on a police shooting and I have been scrambling ever since.So you physicians really stick together. What is your view on whether medical schools should require an undergraduate degree as a requirement. I always assumed that was the case, at least under the modern concept of medical school, last 50 or 100 years, whatever it is considered to be. Was completely surprised when I learned that Duke Medical School did not have that requirment when our current speaker was accepted.

When werenthe "custom" wood finishes available on Heritage? Was there much demand for those when you worked there HDBR? Did they encourage suggestions on improvements/rrefinements to build process? Was safety much of an issue? You mentioned OSHA inspections, I was wondering if things were pretty safe around there, I have never thought of that before until yiu mentioned requirements for hair.

DR. Doctor, LarryC, The Maverick of the Forum. Way to go, and Happy Belated Birthday. Travis

Useful indeed. I never knew they could carry a spotlight to assist rescue workers or a rescue rope.