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Prana- You're right ... it is Perpetual Technologies not Peripheral Technologies ....I've been kinda burned out recently due to fatigue from staying up too late listening to my CDs through these unbeleivable devices ... there is just so much more on my cds then I ever was able to hear. You're right about the P1A .. it does not accept optical (toslink) input like the P3A ...that's why I have the MSB Digital Director ...it takes muliple toslink and coax inputs and outputs them as both toslink or optical. Meanwhile my DVDs are getting completely ignored, I am so fascinated by these new technologies and the amazing sound they produce ... interestlngly, at least to me, is that I am feeding their output through a recent incarnation of an old Dynaco tube pre-amp design into over twenty year old Klipschorns (but updated with Al's great ALK crossover. I get a kick out of technology from my youth meeting and combining with the technologies of today. The Perpetual Technologies web site has some great explainations of how these devices work. I feel like I now have the best of the old LP/tube/horn tehnology combined with modern computer tech. resulting in all the advantages of CDs and LPs without the disadvantages of either!!!

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My CDs sound equally fabulous from either my Sony CX400 changers or from my Sony XA1ES as long as I take the optical output from either and feed it through my new Periferal Technologies P1A digital correction engine (converts 16 bit to 24) reduces "jitter" while the P3A DAC upsamples (44.1kHz to 96kHz). The result is much "bigger sound" - bigger soundstage - fantastic detail and imaging - increased dynamic range - my CDs have become "super" CDs! Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgraades for music Dynaco PAS-4 pre-amp w/ Tesla tubes Outlaw 1050 6.1 AV receiver MSB Digital Director 4 LaScalas (suround, center & rear) Peripheral Technologies P1A & P2A 3 Sony CX400 changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (controls changers, downloads contents and album covers from internet) Sony XA1ES CD player Sony S530 DVD player Sony 798 HF VCR Panasonic component video monitor

I just got the Perpetual Technologies DAC and correction engine. Together they make regular CDs into super CDs (or a very very close approximation) and they sound absolutly outstanding on my Heritage Speakers. My dog, however, prefers the Sonys (just kidding).

Of course they have gone mainstram - mass market - but they do offer a high quality product at a reasonable price. Even the Heritage series, their most expensive speaker being the Klipschorns at about 6k a pair, is too reasonable for some audiopiles to accept as "high end" but I beleive the Khorns are right up there with the very best. Their newly aquired electronics company certainly is high end. Should be interesting to see what they do with the reference subs - they are overdue as is the new Millenium Klipschorn design. I expect they will produce a digital speaker with built in seperate amps for each speaker component with a digital crossover and I believe this is a reason why they aquired Mondial as I beleive digital speakers may be the wave of the future. Klipsch is a pretty exciting company. Small high end dealers need to sell high (over) priced esoteric equiptment to remain in business so they have to discount Klipsch to sell their snobby overpriced stuff.

Great post! Could not have described my Khorns better ... now even better with Al Ks crossover network upgrades!

I have 3 subs in my HT setup - two LF-10s and a KSW15 -None are as clean as my Klipschorns although the LF-10s come closest ... I use the subs for LFE effects on DVD movies only - together they produce great explosions, etc. - the khorns are low enough for music and produce the cleanest bass I've ever heard. If I go to surround sound on SACD or DVD audio I may use the LH10's to extend the bass response of my LaScala surrounds.

I recently discovered two rather miraculous devices that have transformed my system. I discovered these devices at the recent Home Entertainment Show in NYC. They are the P1A Digital Correction Engine and the P3A High Resolution DAC from PerpetualTechnologies.com. Together they transform CDs into super CDs by increasing bit density to 24 bit and increasing sample rates to 96K (192K, when available) while eliminating jitter effects. The P1A can also be programed to adjust for speaker and room acoustic anomolies. The result is dramatic. I heard Martin Logan speakers adjusted (frequency respones peaks and valleys are virtually eliminated) dramatically by the P1A at the show. I plan to program it for my klipschorns in the near future. Another program will adjust for room anomolies. In the meantime my CDs now have both the advantages of CDs and LPs. Their enhanced detail and clarity, and the depth and width of the soundstage have to be heard to be believed. This coupled with my recent upgrading of my Khorns with new ALK crossovers have produced a spectacular system! Klipschorns (2) w/ALK Xovers LaScallas (4) Outlaw Audio 6.1 Receiver Klipsch LF-10 subs (2) Klipsch KSW-15 Sony S530D DVD SONY 798HF VCR SONY CX400 CD Megachangers (2) SONY CX240 Megachanger SONY XA1ES CD Player Panasonic 32" Component Video Monitor Phillips Pronto Programable Touchscreen Remote Nirvis.com Slink-e computer interface (controls and programs all the SONY changers, downloads data for each CD off the internet - titles, tracks, album covers, even some notes and lyrics - fully searchable and programable play lists). Time-Warner Digital Cable w/ Roadrunner Internet etower 700 computer w/ wireless keyboard and mouse and output to TV monitor. X10 Lighting controls.

I started with a mono set=up when I was in junior high in the 50s. I had a mono EICO kit pre-amp and a mono 30-35 watt EICO kit power amp with a University diffusacone 12 in a University enclosure kit. Latter I addded a University tweeter. I had a Rec-o-kut 16" tonearm kit (yea a tonearm kit!) with a Pickering magnetic phono cartridge. My turntable was made out of parts recommended from a kit builders magazine I increased the platter from 10" to 12" by adding a cement ring to the outside acording to instructions in the article. It took a couple of revolutions to get up to speed but was great after that. Latter I built an EICO stero preamp and added another identical EICO kit amp. I also replicated my University set up to which I latter added a University dual voice coil woofer which served both channels for low bass (a 1960's sub-woofer!) I had an early stereo reel to reel tape recorder and a EICO kit stereo FM tuner. My friends and I used to thrill to trains, planes etc. crossing my room which would upset my parents. (today I listen to DVD movie helicopters circling the room and explosions and gun battles which upsets my wife ... guess I never grew up!) I also remember getting the first Stereo record that hit Albany and looking at its grooves through a microscope. I lusted after the Klipschorns which I have today. Its been a lot of fun and a lot of good listening.

There is very little discreate 6.1 material, although the Dolby matrix does extract some rear material from some 5.1 dvds. So far my rear channel seems to add to the surround effect but rarely in a very dramatic way.

I recently attended the Home Entertainment Exhibition in NYC and was most impressed by Perpetual Technologies' speaker correction engine ( a digital computerized device that corrected for the dips and peaks in any speaker sysem) ... it really made a significant difference ... but I have also been amazed to find that when I'm in a great mood my system ,,, even my car system seems to sound a lot bettter ,,, i also remember from my mispent drug using days that even a so so system could sound great while high from smoking pot ... which leads me to beleive that the human brain can be quite a speaker correction engine.

You might also want to look at LaScala and Klipschorn reviews ... they use the same components, although the cornerhorns go down to 35Hz while the Belles and laScalas go to 45. Otherwise they sound the same. Consumer reviews whuch have their limitations can be found on www.audioreview.com ... also you'll find a lot of comments on all three of these speakers on this site.

Sony announced at the recent Home Entertainment show in NYC tht they will have a player capable of playing DVD movies and SACDs for $299 with bass management by the end of the summer. There are a lot more SACD titles out ... both sounded a significent degree better than CDs ... what really impressed me was the Perpetual Technology devices that can turn regular CDs into a very close approximation of super cds. however these devices are expensive, although they also corrrect for speaker and room anomalies!

The added weight of the Outlaw comes from the heavy duty parts used in its manufacture, They sell direct on the internet only ... no wholesaler, no retailer ,,,thus more bang for the buck .... be carefull with specs they can be VERY misleading ... see "The Complete Guide to High End Audio" by Robert Harley if you want to really understand specs!

Spesker plscement can make a BIG difference in the way a speaker sounds in a given room - building these floor standing speakers into a cabnet would limit your ability to experiment with placement. Usually these speakers sound best out from walls which would be difficult with a built-in situation.

I have two Outlaw 1050 receivers - one I use with my Klipsch Heritage home theater (Klipschorns & LaScalas) and the other with the now discontinued Klipsch THX certified Home Theater System - Both are excellent - customer service is fantastic - they are fully guaranteed and the price has just dropped to $499. The quality is first class. Highly recommended.

Room accoustics as well as electronics and speaker positioning can make a significant difference in how a speaker sounds. Of course, correct phasing is essential.

I presume you have a preamp or receiver that decodes rear channel material from Dolby 5.1 or Dolby 5.1 EX or DTS 6.1 sources.The side surrounds should be to the side or slightly to the rear of the listener for best results.

The original broadway cast album of "Fosse" is a great recording; loaded with great bass and exciting dynamics as well super music from Bob Fosse's spectacular musicals.

I use an Outlaw 1050 receiver with both my Heritage (Klipschorns & La Scalas) home theater system and with my Klipsch THX system. I am thinking of adding the 750 to the THX system (the 1050 has plenty of power for the super efficent Heritage speakes) but I could use a little more power for the THX system. The Outlaw products have received outstanding reviews and are exceptional values. I just heard the 750 at the NYC Home Theater Show this weekend. It was being used in the Outlaw/ Dolby Labs joint presentation and in the AudioReview.com components of the year exhibit. I highly recommend both Outlaw products. Their customer service is exceptional.

Is the Yamaha 995 a home theater receiver? If yes, you would not want to hook the rear speakers to B. If its a stereo receiver you could hook them up to B but then they wouldn't be rear speakers they would receive the same signal as the front speakers.

I was kidding ... I just can not imagine spending that kind of money on speakers. For that matter I cannot belive the amount of money people spend on speaker wire. How much better could these be than Khorns? And if I had that kind of money I certainly would get an acoustical engineer to design a room in my house specifically for these speakers. I think people often don't know the quality of things and figure if it costs a lot it must be a whole lot better. Often not so.

I was just wondering, when I buy this sub could I hook it up with zip cord or should I get a little better quality wire? I have a 12 x 24 room should I buy two? Will it work ok with my Bose cubes? Any suggestions?

I can understand the prior reviewer, that was similar to my first experience until I learned about room acoustics. As I said before, with my LaScala I was able to adjust for the anomalies of the room pretty well by just finding the right placement (and angle as it turned out) - although I really didn't like were they ended up and were I had to sit to realize their potential. With the Khorns, placement was a given that couldn't be changed. I had to learn about bass traps (to break up the standing waves)and sound defusers to defuse what I think is termed first order reflections. Since I was doing a Home Theater, placements of my LaScalas and the phasing of the Heritage speaker components I built into a cabinet I designed to house my 32" TV monitor were added factors. I also had to reinforce the walls onboth sides of the Khorns with 3/4' medium density fiberbord. I also added velvet curtains at strategic points and bought a new thicker carpet ....but it was worth it ....the cleanest most natural sounding bass I ever heard ... I use my two LF10 subs only for LFEs on DVD movies. The midrange and highs sound incediably real. I've entered the twilight zone ... live bands are in my room and my room becomes Carnegie Hall or wherever the music was recorded. In short, you have to provide the proper setting to realize the full potential of these wonderful speakers.

I can understand the prior reviewer, that was similar to my first experience until I learned about room acoustics. As I said before I was able to adjust for the anomalies of the room pretty welll by just finding the right placement (and angle as it turned out) although I really didn't like to much were they ended up and were I had to sit. With the Khorns placement was a given that couldn't be changed. I had to learn about bass traps (to break up the standing waves) and sound defusers to defuse what I think is termed first order reflection. Since I was doing a Home Theater placements of the LaScalas and the phase of Heritage components I built into a cabnet I made to also house my 32" TV monitor. I also had to brace the walls on either side of the Khorns with medium density fiber board. Also I had to add velvet curtins. But the result was worth it ....the cleanest bass I have ever heard (only use my LF10 subs for LFEs in movies) and the highs and midranges are incediably realistic. If this is distortion its the best I've ever heard!