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Years ago I purchased a pair of Heresy II's after hearing the Bose 901. Recently I purchased an RF-52/RC-52 system, while at the gym yesterday I noticed the really good bass line and dispersion of the Bose Acoustimass 5 system and I hate to say it, but to get that kind of bass I am going to have to purchase a subwoofer to go with the big floor standing speakers and the big center channel. My Heresy II's have a very snappy bass line to rolloff, and an open, airy sound. The RF-52/RC-52 just aren't as impressive, and the bass line, which is why I bought them, needs a subwoofer. I hate to say it, but I think I like the Acoustimass 5 better than my RF/RC stuff. This little Acoustimass system (for $400) was covering a 40 X 40 room, I am 7' from listening position, where my Heresy II's are open and airy, the Refenence series are not. Those crappy little acoustimass satellites seem to give me a more open sound than my tractrix horn. My Heresy II's are gonna stay with me, so no soliciting, the Reference stuff...well...I dunno...I either buy a subwoofer or loose 'em...for the Acoustimass system. Yes I am the dark hearted traitor, but it's the sound that gets me, and these little acoustimass did a better job in that big gym (repleat with heavy bags, Octagon, wrestling mats) and these little guys got the sound out. Maybe I should have got the RF-62's orRF-63's ? My system: Dell E-521 w/AMD 4800+ X2 XP Professional SoundBlaster X-Fi Audio Extreme Creative IO module Nvidia 8500 GT card w/512 MB Ram Delll 21 FPW monitor Sony Vega 36" tv Yamaha RX-V661 receiver Klipsch Heresy II's Klipsch RF-52's Klipsch RC-52

My 20+ year old Heresy II's are experiencing midrange and woofer failure in one speaker, help, Corpsman. BEC, I hear you are the man, so help me out, got any Heresy II crossover networks around.

Thanks, as long as the my community recognizes my signature, I'm good, SWCC isn't for the glory. Yea, I did steal from Ben Franklin, but I figured to just keep it short, sweet and CFB.

I have a 20 year old pair of Heresy II's and suddenly the woofer and midrange don't work in one of them, anybody got any ideas, spare crossover network to sell ? Even though I am the dark hearted traitor who purchased some Reference stuff, I don't want these Heresy's to die, they have been with me since I first made LTJG...help me out folks I need a corpsman here !

I've worked with many foreign Navys, from Germans, this translatates to "PDG", even Outstanding. Everytime we play in their park we are the away team, and to get this kind of praise from them, is quite good. Now the trick is to get this known in the USA.

My Subaru is made in Indiana, go figure...as far as my RF-52's/RC-52, they are cool, glad QC is done in the states, they work well, really well.

This is about the 901 - the world's most overrated speaker, but Amy Unger, I hope you take some notice of this rather long winded posting: I remember when I first moved back east to go to College, I grew up in Carlsbad, CA, where every good home, including ours had a stereo; a pair of ' 62 Khorns and a Heresy center. When I moved east to go to college, I was given a pair of Heresy's an old Kenwood tuner and amp. After hearing "Those really cool" Bose in the dorm, for the first time, I thought they had toilet tissue stuffed in them. Once folks heard the stereo in my room, there was an awakening among the open minded. Good thing I was a wrestler on a floor of wrestlers, getting people out of my room was no problem. I have been living in the New England for sometime now, in fact about 12 - 15 miles east of Bose central, Framingham, MA. Bose has never made a very good speaker but they have awesome marketing and a great image around here; they are a household word. As a forvever Klipsch owner, I pay it no mind, but I feel that Klipsch has failed to really market their venerable name in the Northeastern US. There is some presence here, because of Best Buy. Best Buy seems to sell tons of the Synergy and Reference series stuff they also seems to do all the advertising up here for Klipsch. People cant ask for your product if they don't know about it. Amy, Klipsch staff, the New England area may not be very important to Klipsch, very few people up here recognize the name, resulting in few people walking in and asking to hear Klipsch; I think I have pointed more people to the Klipsch section of Best Buy than about anybody. The day you folks in marketing have done your jobs is the day the Klipsch name is as recognized as Bose. You do have 30+ years of existence on them, although they probably have better sales numbers. Making the best best mouse trap is great, but you have to let people know. I buy my Kipsch stuff from an online store out of NYC (very important market), they have better prices than "Best Buy", because the store is in NYC, I get it from UPS overnight, even though they just ship ground, it's only a 240 mile haul. Winning awards is great, showing pictures of Ice-T w/a pair of RF-83's is wonderful, but that is public relations, not advertising. Amy, my little unit in the US Navy gets more brand recognition than Klipsch does, which should give you something to think about.

This one is easy, I have the RF-52's and an RC-52, I use a Yamaha RX-V661, conveniently available at BestBuy for peanuts (relatively speaking), I drive it through a creative digital I/O module attached to an SB X-Fi audio extreme, conveniently, the I/O module lets me run a spdif cable to my receiver. As far as power goes, unless it is a really rare occasion or poor source, I am running at between -45 and -40 db gain on my receiver. The receiver let me set for simulating 5 channel mode and cinema modes once I set the center channel correctly, which was really easy. The big problem is that the receiver goes nuts and acts as a straight pipe at sampling rates over 44 Mhz I rarely go above -40 db gain on my receiver, 0 db is a painful experience, because at my listening position it is 121 db,,,ouch...my listening area is around 7' from TV/Speakers. I keep the center channel mounted (RC-52) mounted over the tv, and it will make the tv vibrate and do funky things with the picture. As far as HT/Entertainment, it is pretty good, better than most and definelty kicks butt on that Bose crap they push at magnolia. Remember the KISS principle, boots, ammo, rifle, Ka-Bar...all you need.

Y'all know, there is a thing called progress, not always good, but time moves forward. As sure as the possesion of one Klipsch speaker will bring forth the desire for another one , everyone in this and every other thread knows this to be true. Now that I have completed the R*-52 setup, I am thinking of the the R*-82 setup. For 22 years I had only one pair of Heresy's (ok II's) and they were great. For 22+ years of Naval service, my favorite rifle was still the M-14. The point is that progress can be either good or bad, but the in the Klipsch community, addiction to improvement is a universal constant. Regardless of which series you pick, there is always that urge to improve. It is this forward movement to improve which drives us. WWPKD, frankly I don't care, but what he started is a company that continues a traditon of excellence, it to this principle that I try to adhere. "Badges..? We don't need no stinkin' badges"

I think it's pretty cool. This is based on the theory that there is very little new under the sun and that evolution is gradual. The Galil was made with the ejection mechanism of the AK-47 and the barrel of the FN-FAL, much like the new SAR-L (US), again, producing similar looking products, each taking advantage of the others perceived strong points. Some would say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I just called Klipsch Parts, first of all they assured me all is made in Arkansas, and the cost is $272 per speaker, new woofer, midrange, tweeter, gaskets, screw, etc. This is a totally great deal.

Amy, you have convinced me...I am selling my "Red" Reference speakers, maybe I will get the conversion kit and I will for sure keep my Heresy II's, a descendant of a proud tradition. In over 20 years of service to my country I don't believe I ever used a Chinese made product. My Dell computer is probably made in China or Bangalore, which is sad, Dell uses elves in one commercial. My choices were limited. The contract for the Avionics for the F-22 went to IMI..they are friends, the Chinese are business partners, funny thing is that IMI will not do business with China. (IMI == Israeli Military Industries). They understand security and loyalty, apparently many consumers don't.

Yea, and my Subaru is made in Indiana, BFD. I don't hear anything about Chevy Malibu's being made in Japan. Although I understand the tariffs on American products in China are high and the yuan is floated artificially low. We are going to be at war with China within a Generation, they are an old and patient culture for which we have little understanding. My Heritage loudspeakers, which I am now keeping, I am proud of. I am happy with my reference stuff (RF-52/RC52) well a conundrum;couldn't you choose Rhodesia for cheap labor ? I wouldn't even buy Chinese pet food or clothing. My son, in NROTC is fully aware of who is enemy is. As a retired US Naval Officer, I too am aware of this pending threat...anybody wanna buy a pair of RF-52's and an RC-52 ?

Yea, the RF-10's or RF-52's would make a great set of front speakers, and they are not bank Breakers. The quintets may go better with reference series, but this is something you have to decide.

So there is an upgrade kit...cool, how much and how soon.

I returned the RC-10 for an RC-52...and I understand that there is a conversion kit to make the Heresy II's into III's, if so I will take one. Is there another speaker company besides of Klipsch ?

Really, maybe I won't get rid of my old II's for an RSW-10d. Let me know about the kit anyway, as an employee you have our contact info.

It is the "big box" stores like Best Buy that have brought Klipsch to New England, so even those of us with $$$$ to spend are wise to go to the "big box store" where there are bound to be a few young hotties to look at as well as our favorite products. Best Buy will have all the names like Denon, Klipsch and stuff like that in the "Magnolia Home Theater" dept up here, and a few cuties hanging around to boot. The last "specialty store" I visited, in Harvard Square, had some serious geeks hanging around, a huge MacIntosh display and some imported speaker that sucked up every watt and still sounded like they were playing through a paper bag. These are the same jerks that espoused the theoretical points of Bose, AR, KLH, Braun and ADS...guess they have to reevaluate their acoustic paradigms every few years of so. Big Box stores are totally cool for some things, the "Magnolia Hone Theater" depts in the Best Buys up here are cool(they do a lot of Klipsch), as are the walk-in specials featuring Sony Bravia stuff. When it comes to computer stuff..well, they lack a little, but that's what online shopping or the local Chinese Computer store is for.

The RF-82 system is awesome for both HT and music..see if you can sneak in the center channel. Enjoy [H]

They are both excellent choices, there is an online dealer (http://www.universallcd.com) in NY that will get you the RF-63's for $1499.99 and the RF-82's for $799 a pair, that's quite a price difference. Like all things sonic, it comes down to which you like better http://www.universallcd.com, these guys are authorized for the outdoor and Reference series, I bought my RF-52's and RC-52 from them, next week after I sell my Heresy II's I am going to ger the RSW-10d ($429.00) or an RPW-10 ($249.99) from them, because I am in MA and this company is in NY, I usually get stuff within a day or two at the outside. I have heard both of these speakers (RF-63 and RF-82) in HT and 2ch mode (with center channel) and they are both spectacular. The RF-63 has a bit tighter a bass line and is slightly more efficient. There is no real lose in this situation, they are both spectacular. Which ever you choose, use your personal preference as the basis for purchase, get the appropriate (matching) center channel, you won't regret it. My Heresy II's were way more expensive than my RF-52/RC-52 combo, but this is evolution and Klipsh has done it well. Enjoy...

As an owner of both Reference and Heritage series, and some one who loves to go to Best Buy, I am surprised they charged a restocking fee. I purchased an RC-52 from Best Buy, that afternoon I found it for a lot less from an authorized on-line dealer, so I returned the RC-52, they didn't apply a restocking charge. Maybe it's against the law in MA, lots of things are. The rule is simple, Synergy stuff matches Synergy stuff, Reference stuff matches other Reference stuff, Heritage stuff matches other Heritage stuff. It's not just about Frequency response and efficiency, but also about timbre or sound characteristics unique to a line of speakers. I fell in love with the Reference as soon as I heard them, my Heresy II's now sit under a blanket. This really gets a lot of the Heritage people going, but hey everyone has their own taste. I see the Reference and Synergy series stuff as the company's future and the Heritage stuff, a fantastic past. The Klipsch families each have a unique sound, I love Reference series, so I purchased everything with the purpose of matching. I wouldn't mix my Heresy II's with my RF-52's and RC-52... which go together nicely, they were designed as complementary stuff. Herein lies the rub, I would love to get a pair of the RF-82's but then I would have to upgrade my center channel as well. Instead, I'm buying an RSW-10d, a Reference series woofer. For back channels I'll go with RB series speakers. The unique sound characteristics of each line, Heritage, Reference and Synergy are part of what make Klipsch unique, all three lines are good. I don't thnk the Heresy II's would make good back channels for my Reference series stuff. A lot of klipsch people seem to spend tons of money on this stuff, spend on what you really like and can afford (stretch a little), this stuff lasts forever. My mom got a pair of KHorns in 1962 and a Heresy center, she still has them all and the power equipment she bought with them. I bought a pair of Heresy II's back in 1985, they still sound as good as the day I first brought them home. Listen to both Reference and Synergy series, figure out which one you like better and purchase the matching products for it. Klipsch pretty specifically shows how to match. Happy hunting

Awesome, now go start doing Muay Thai or BJJ a few times a week and you will be a well rounded man physically/

No way, Starbucks may have really bad pastry, but the Grande iced purple eye (3 shots of expresso) give me more of a rush than anything Bose has ever made, and I live in Bose country (MA). And at all of our local Starbuck's, the girls are pretty hot, many are Boston college or Pine Manor Students.

No way, go with the RF-83, maybe an RC-64 in addition, the center channel does add presence. As a guy who has grown up with Heritage series equipment, I see the RF series as a serious step in evolution. As an owner of both Heritage and RF series, I prefer the RF series for listening. Geez, the Cornwall is a good efficient speaker w/alot of pesonality, but I think the RF-83 has much better detail and clarity in sound. Things move forward and although the Cornwall is 2db more efficient, the RF-83 is real progress, detailed and fine not just a bright, airy, loud sound. My mom has a pair of KHorns she bought for the house back in '62, I have owned both a pair of Heresy's and now I've had the Heresy II's for 22 years, I like my RF-52's and the RC-52 much better. Evolution in technology is a great thing. Given the 2 db in efficiency, 100 db/1watt/1meter v 102 db/1 watt1 meter, either way you're moving a lot of air, the subwoofer for sure means you are reinforcing the lower frequency range of the RF-83, which has a better frequency response range than the Cornwall II. Although there hasn't been much evolution of the human ear, there certainly has been in the reproduction of analog wave lengths, the RF series represents some of the finest progress in the art of speaker making. You have my vote on the RF-83's. Traditonalists may flame me, but when I got my RF-52's and RC-52, I put the Heresy II's under a blanket, and I haven't looked back. Heck, even my girlfriend likes them. Throw in an RC-64 for good measure with the money you save, you'll have a great sonic investment. You are setting up a home stereo, not a theater or PA system. Either way, enjoy, I vote RF series. Check out the link below: http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Today's Klipsch are way better than 5 or 10 years ago. I have owned or been around Heritage series stuff for a good portion of my life and the Reference series is a real evolution in design. In 1962, my mom, like any good Carlsbad, CA housewife had a stereo installed, MacIntosh Power and a pair of KHorns w/a Heresy center. When I went off to college back east, I brought a Kenwood integrated amp and tuner and a Thorens TD-125 (I think that was the number) turntable. While serving in the Navy, I traded up to Heresy II's, liked the bass line a little better, traded up to a pretty good Yamaha receiver and CD player. I still have the old Heresy II's, but I think the Reference series is a signifigant design evolution in the home product market. I traded up to a newer Yamaha Receiver and use my computer to store all media (movies, music, tv, internet radio). Klipsch if nothing else has evolved well in design, I like my Reference series stuff, which I have bought this year, and since I got 22 years out of my Heresy II's I think I'll keep tabs to see how things evolve. Up here in the Northeast, many people still think of Klipsch as just plain "loud" or HT app speakers. Many times, salesmen will sell them that way, expressing their personal preferences. Bose is made here in MA, but I still remember the first time I heard 901's, back in 1976, I thought they had toilet tissue in them, they lacked the personality of my Heresy's. Many salesmen up here prefer Bose or some exotic Eurotrash noname to Klipsch. Heck I have heard ProMedia systems outperform Bose Sattelite/sub systems. Do I like the Reference stuff better than the Legacy line, hell yea, but they are from the same family tree. Me..I say keep up the good work, my mom still has all her stuff from '62.