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You're kidding right? I've never had a shielding problem with my RP-3s. Seems to me you need some power to make any speaker talk on it own. Is the interference coming in through the power cord of the RP-3's (unlikely - and if it is coming through anything but the subwoofer, extremely unlikely), or is the Yamaha receiver not really turned off, just on standby? I don't mean to sound rude, I just can't fathom this idea that a radio signal could make sound eminate from a speaker without some kind of power leaking to it, or a source of radio transmission so close that the power is actually arcing to the speaker. Any CB broadcast that causes the speaker to talk on its own would indeed be something worth witnessing. I would think that there would be a few other visible traces of this powerful radio signal. Like eggs cooking themselves while sitting on the counter, something like that. If it is indeed a CB broadcast, I'd bet the FCC would be interested.

You're right. After I wrote this I checked http://www.lansingheritage.org/ and found the literature for the L220s That is a cone midrange with a "lens" in front of it. Odd. I assume the JBL Hartsfield is actually a horn? Anyhow, it did sound awesome. My buddy was using an older Carver Amp to drive them but didn't like the sound. Switched to his Cary tube amp and found it to be a great combo. You could hear how crystal clear the catseye tweeter was. The sound difference between that and a Klipsch tweeter (my Heresy tweeter to be exact), was incredible. By the way, my Heresys didn't like the Cary. Seemed to drive the squawker very well, but the tweeter was almost AWOL. Weird. Sounds fine hooked to my Rotel.

Well maybe not. I just wanted to share my enthusiasm for a pair of 23 year old speakers that a buddy just picked up. They're NOT Klipsch. Ok don't tar and feather me yet. It is horn loaded. They're JBL L220s, last manufactured somewhere around 1979. WOW! Passive radiator with...I think it was a 15" woofer. A Hartsfield like midrange horn with the baffled front (forgive me horn fans, I don't know the JBL lingo), and the cat's eye tweeter. It was mated to a 25 watt Cary tube amp. Nice deep bass, coupled with clean & nicely resolved horn sounding midrange and a powerful extended range tweeter. Dynamic and authoratative. Clean, crisp. Hits all the usual Klipsch frequencies (35hz-15Khz+/-) and then some (yes I think these JBLs were punching down to nearly 25hz and definitely close to and perhaps beyond 20Khz) Anyone got a pair to sell?

I haven't subscribed to XM, but the audio channels on the DirecTV dish sound like those first generation CD players to me. I found that an in-line amp inserted into the cable run helps (but doesn't cure) that situation. I suppose it could be my equipment, but I really don't expect sattelite radio to be any better. I wonder what is available to boost sattelite radio signals when the clouds become thick, or the city becomes dense around you?

I've got to go visit my old high school to see if they still have those four pairs of Voice of the Theater Speakers (three matching pairs, and another high school across town with potentially three more). I only want one set. I wonder what they would take for new speakers if I can get those old ones from them?

Big Bean - I feel your pain. Did you always get what you wanted for Christmas? If not, then buy her a Henry Kloss radio instead.

I must admit. I have been a closet Altec VOT horn lover for years. I must get a pair of them for fun now that I have a house with some space.

If you already have LaScalas, I would steer toward the Heresys. If you want a little more tonal bass, then step toward the ChorusII or Quartets. If you really want a lot more bass, then go with the Heresys and add a well matched sub.

Shoe - I love my MIT speaker cables, but haven't bought any MIT interconnects yet. I am using mostly Monster M550s for interconnects, but dream of better. I would certainly put AudioQuest Corals on my list. It would be great if someone who has had some experience with these brands would try to enlighten the rest of us about the tendences of each of these different brands. I think MIT does a good job of reinforcing the bass, cleaning up the mids and highs, but sometimes I wonder if the added bass is too much for the source.

I sometimes noticed a difference with home made biwire by using two strands of Radio Shack speaker wire. The I'm told that the load is lessened AND the chances of interference within the wire are also lessened. Not sure what difference it will make in a center channel. Clarity could be the most obvious, especially in the highs. I don't think you'll hear the bass improvement. Perhaps less muddy in the midrange. I will always recommend special cable after hearing the improvement it made in my system.

I only own B&W 602s from the B&W line. I love them. They are smoother through the audible range (less peak frequencies, less chance of sound of certain frequencies bouncing around the room too). The extreme high frequencies are also captured better by the B&Ws. And the warmth and timbre of instruments and voices become more apparent with B&Ws. The B&W will make great recordings sound great and poor recordings sound poor. I switched back to Klipschs because I missed the incredible dynamics and wide sound dispersion offered by the Klipsch speaker. I also liked how the Klipshc made great recordings sound great, and poor recordings sound as good as they can be. I still listen to my B&Ws. I still wish that a Klipsch could deliver some of the sounds that I hear on my B&Ws. I still wish the B&W could capture some of the raw dynamic that makes music played through the Klipsch speakers (good AND bad recordings) so alive. I wouldn't worry too much about Lucas switching to B&W for analysis of their recordings. I'd bet they still listen to Klipsches when they show the final screening.

I loved my Heresys connected to my old Sony Receiver back in 1981. When the Sony gave up the ghost (not long after the warranty ran out) I bought an NAD 7130 Receiver. More punch. Better bass. I was very happy, but cash poor, and knew there was better systems out there. Flash forward to 1999. I knew my NAD with its hard to replace crackling speaker selector/power button circuit was polluting my system's sound. I purchased a Denon HT receiver with a pair of B&W 602s. Great Sound. But soon I missed the dynamic power of the Klipsch speakers. Instead of Hauling out the old Heresys, I bought brand new RP-3s. I was very happy with the Rp-3s, but now felt that the Denon needed more power. I then bought the Rotel Rb991 (200 watts). WOW!. Great! But...I then connected the Heresys to the upper frequency output of my $200+ MIT speaker cables (another purchase somewhere along the way) and kept the lower connection to the RP-3s powered subs. Incredible sound! Perfect I thought. Then I moved to my new house.... All bets are off. Time to build a new system. Oddly, the Heresys still sound beautiful...and the old NAD still produces the most satisfying sound when the speaker selector is not residing in one of the many burned out spots on the old motherboard bound mechanical switch.

If you don't care too much about how it looks, CMU blocks from any building supply store work nicely. Then stop by the fabric store and buy some fabric to cover them with. I built speaker stands for my Heresys out of plywood. They are much shorter than 30" though, I don't think I would trust plywood to be low resonance up to 30".

1. What Heritage speakers have you owned, currently own, or want to own? I own a pair of one owner 1981 Heresys. (I also own RP-3s). I always thought the Belles were cool, but when I heard them (only once), they didn't sound as good as the Klipschorn OR my Heresys. I need to listen to them again. 2. What was your age when you first purchased a Heritage series loudspeaker? 18 (those same Heresys I still own) 3. What is your current age? almost 40 4. Why did you choose Heritage loudspeakers over another Klipsch model? I couldn't afford any of the others. 5. If you currently own some Heritage loudspeakers, and could purchase some more Klipsch speakers(new or used), which ones would you purchase? Why? I don't know if there is a current model that I could choose that I would prefer over my Rp-3s and my Heresys. If I were more motivated, I think I would work on my Son-of Heresy idea. 6. Do you think the upcoming Jubilee should become part of the "Heritage" line, since it was also designed by PWK? Depends upon how it sounds. No disrespect meant to PWK, but didn't Henry Ford push for the Edsel in his late years? Also, since the Jubilee was not on the market before PWK passed away, how do I know that someone else didn't monkey with the design afterwards? ------------------ Denon AVR-2700 Denon DCD1500-II Audio Control Octave Phillips CDR-765 Nakamichi BX-100 Sony PS-LX3 Rotel RB-991 Klipsch Heresy (1981) Klipsch RP-3 B&W602 MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire Computer system: NAD 7130 Realistic Optimus Pro-7s (its only a computer system) Klipsch KSW-10

cc1091 simple, and not used on any other board except by me. First Initial of my first name, first intitial of my last name, a month and a year of significance in my life (month and year not related). Done. CC

What I've always heard about Carver amps is that you should get the ones that were made by Bob Carver and his company before Harmon Kardon bought out the name. Fortunately, Bob Carver bought the name back from Carver and started the Sunfire line. The only amps from Carver that I would own are the Cube amplifier (forgive me, I don't know the model number) and the TX-11 receiver. All else is junk (at least that is what I've heard). Sunfire has a great sub. The Theater Grand is incredible.

quote: Interesting that some here wouldn't even be using horns if there was no Klipsch, odd. I too find it interesting, but I don't think that is odd. Though I like Klipsch, and I don't mind the horn sound, there are some annoying characteristics of horns. There are many speakers on the market that can reproduce the timbre of an instrument more accurately. The physics of the horn smooths this delicate information together as it passes through the horn. Thus the information is less pure, less focused, less accurate. The use of the tractrix horn has helped to retain more of this information, but has sacrificed some of the audible impact, physical efficiency and the projection of sound stage that was a part of the exponential horn traditionally used by Klipsch. Most speakers when presented with enough clean power will produce the projected soundstage. Some will do that and retain the timbral information (800 watts into a pair of B&Ws WOULD be interesting). Magneplanars are power hungry too. Given the right room, they can create an audible atmosphere that is magic. They cost much less than most B&Ws. And they don't want 800 watts (but 200/channel would be nice). Klipsch speakers can do this with few watts, little cash outlay, and very little loss in the Timbral information (at least by my ears). I guess I'm saying, that for me, Klipsch are a cost effective compromise that gives me the best sound for my buck. I haven't heard a set of JBLs in..geeze, I don't know if I have ever heard them. Cerwin Vega being sold at Best Buys is enough to bias me aginst anything they make. I also left NHTs and Boston Acoustics off my list as a possible contender. Some Boston's more than others. NHT's would need some clean power.

I tend to go for the best bang for the buck. Magneplanars are extremely inexpensive for what they can do. I own a pair of B&Ws, but I think I would grow tired of them. Altec Voice of the Theater's hold a loving place in my heart, but are no longer produced (but if Klipsch were not around, maybe Altec would still be?). Dynaudio seem to have a small following on this board, but the prices I see let me pass on those. Quads are wonderful, but I think the Maggies price better. So out of those choices, I would think Maggies.

Stumbled onto my dad's Jensen 3P/1 speakers in the basement this weekend at my parents house. I was curious about the drivers involved in this speaker (since I know that triax is valued by some collectors), so my mom dug out the Jensen catalog that accompanied the speakers. It showed the entire line of Jensen speakers for that model year and several kits and separate speakers for sale with prices included. I took some pictures of the catalog with my digital camera, but since I didn't have my tripod, the results were not as clear as I had hoped. Look here for the photos: Jensen catalog Also, does anyone have an idea of what Jensen 3P/1 slim wall mount speakers are worth? I didn't get the date of manufacture, but I believe them to be from the early to mid sixties.

justin- Just started reading this thread. Glad you're better off than you had feared. Your comment "..It is a neurological disorder that the dr. said was very similar to MS but not really.." reminds me of the encounter I had with what may have been Optic Neuritis (I think I spelled that right). Apparently this disorder is a common precursor to MS. from what I understand, it is a swelling of the optic nerve that leads from the eye to the brain. I bring this up because my problem seems to have been cured by purchasing a better computer monitor and spending less time on the computer. Somehow refresh rates of less than 72hz makes my left eye hurt. The after a few days, the accompanying symptoms look very much like Optic Neuritis (though I hear that Optic Neuritis seldom occurs in only one eye). Of course, I may have read too much into your single comment. But if this is the diagnosis, and you are making do with an older monitor and video card, see if a better computer monitor and video card helps how you feel. It may not change the condition, but comfort is sometimes very important. This message has been edited by cc1091 on 05-27-2002 at 10:17 PM

Shock-Late- I think tblasing was just kidding you about the use of the concrete block shelf supports. Is there any one of us in this forum who hasn't used concrete blocks in some manner in our stereo systems at some time (past or present)? Shelf suports, speaker stands..very versatile. Your system looks good. Musical Fidelity usually has some good specs (I've never had the chance to listen to one of their products). Driving LaScalas through good cables should yeild some very pleasing sound. ------------------ Denon AVR-2700 Denon DCD1500-II Audio Control Octave Phillips CDR-765 Nakamichi BX-100 Sony PS-LX3 Rotel RB-991 Klipsch Heresy (1981) Klipsch RP-3 B&W602 MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire Computer system: NAD 7130 Realistic Optimus Pro-7s (its only a computer system) Klipsch KSW-10

Ah ha! The classic page is back online. Chorus II also had a passive radiator which improved the bass over the Chorus I. Forte was a little smaller in box dimension and bass driver size (as well as passive radiator size). Nearly the same (if not the same) mid and upper drivers. The Quartet also had a passive radiator. Damn, classic page is offline again. You'll have to compare the specs yourself. They guy who lived next door to me years ago had a pair of Forte's. I was impressed with their sound. They had deeper bass than my Heresy's, but the bass was still fairly tight and controlled. They couldn't take as much abuse as my Heresy's, though. He replaced the passive radiator more than once. Anyhoo..that's my suggestion for anyone looking to extend the bass on the Chorus I: look into the Chorus II passive radiator.

Wasn't the Chorus just a Forte without the passive radiator and hence, only rated to 45 hz instead of 32 hz for the Forte? (The "classic" page seems to be offline right now, so I can't backcheck the size of the box or the components inside).

Hmmm..Wasn't Dusenberg/Auburn/Cord merged with..Studebaker? <shiver>

Ah ha! Resolution. I think this gets closer to the reason why my 13+ year only Denon DCD1500II sounds better than my two year old Phillips dubbing CD deck. The Phillips is certainly more detailed, but less musical. The Denon is more silky smooth. The Phillips more critically focused. The Phillips also seems to lack some of the bass depth.