Fotog

I agree that one is better prepared have a bit of insight before heading out to be "sold" something. With my photography background I am amazed a what passes as sellers facts to unsuspecting camera shoppers at BB. Not that the sales associates are intentionally misleading, I think they think they actually know what they are talking about - but to one who really does, it comes accross as kind of comical. I like my 663 and it does all I need. Your posts read like you might need a little more time to think it through. If you really want the "O" then you are never going to be happy with a bargain receiver. You will always try to justify that you like it - but deep down you won't. On the other hand, if you were simply looking for a receiver, found the 665 at a great price with the features you wanted, you'd be tickled and bragging about the great deal. On line reviews can be helpful, but my experience has shown me that most people who rate items as 5 stars probably are not experts and those that rate items 2 stars or less typically aren't happy with anything. So - I look for 4 star items then go and touch, feel, inspect, and try for myself. Then I buy. For your thoughts and consideration.

Looks like the Ebay seller has posted here (Klipsch Forums Garage sale). 1 post and hawking $120 sets of custom 3's.

I have no complaints with my Yamaha.

Not to be flamed here, but my Polk Monitor 70's perform well in their current role. They were originally my mains when my KLF-20's were in a dedicated 2 channel set up. As my surrounds they are very clean in sound reproductions in movies. For just music, my preference is Klispch, but as an option - directly in his price range - he might consider the Monitor 70's. I have passed on KSP-S6's as surrounds because I like my Monitors so much. It is very likely I will keep these until I find a another set of 20's - and then I'll use these as rears. Very nice capable speakers in my opinion - for many listeners.

I had posted elsewhere that the largest is not necessarily the best. My example was that KLF-20's are generally considered to be superior to the larger KLF-30's. Just last weekend my local Klipsch retailer (Today's Audio) stated the same about the 63's over the 83's - however another member here disagreed. I am sure there are those that feel the 30's are better than the 20's but for the 2 hours I spent discerning between them - it was pretty clear to me that the 20's ran away with the show. Over a decade and a half later, I am very certain I made the right choice choosing the 20's over the 30's. According to my local retailer, the same is true of the 63's over the 83's - but until YOU do the discerning, you really won't know. My guy says the 63's are the choice to make - but based on other posts here - there is obviously less than a consensus. edit to add - My retailer said that soon Klipsch will have a mirror to the KLF-20 coming out [Y][H][Y] That's something to smile about. http://www.todays-audio.com/

Just as there are those who feel the KLF-20's were superior to the larger 30's, there are those who think that RF-63's are superior to the larger 83's. The owner of my local Klipsch retailer subscribes to the above.

Flash (aka Fotog) - 48439 This is particularly helpful to get a sense of those locally that might be resources. The Email or PM process could be used if one wanted to "reach out" and do meet and greets etc. I for one, have had just 1st rate experiences with purchased gear from Forum members.

Although not exactly 2 channel, running 5 channel (or 7 channel) stereo is pretty darn sweet for BOTH movies and music. That's how I roll. Speakers are of course the key to your listening enjoyment. Enjoy the journey.

Rather than give my thoughts on which specific speakers, I'll simply share my thoughts on style. I personally like towers. I like them due to their "pressence" and what I call "tone". In other words, "space" for the sound to emminate from. Larger boxs "usually" mean more pressence and a deeper "tone" (bass). I personally am not trying to replicate a theater where multiple people are in a variety of seating positions relative to the speaker - instead I have a very specific seating position and rarely have more than 2 people (usually only one) watching a movie. The Mrs. doesn't care for the kinds of movies that best utilyze my speakers (nor the volume to make them shine) and the movies she prefers have little need for the soundstage I created. Therefore, for me, Towers work very well. If on the other hand, I was trying to design a home theater for say 6-10 people, then I would either need multiple towers or surrounds with wider dispersion. Due to cost, I would likely choose design specific speakers as in wide dispersion surrounds. Companies like Klipsch design theater speakers for the task at hand and the reason that some very smart engineers use wide dispersion speakers for inclusion into Brand Name home theater systems, should indicate that for the intended purpose, those speakers are best. I really don't think there is a wrong way. Take what you have, and upgrade when you can. Meanwhile enjoy to the fullest.

Absolutely!!!

As I have posted elsewhere, I am a fan of towers as surrounds. Particularly in 7 channel stereo. I prefer front firing ports for surround towers and rear firing ports for Front Mains (like KLF-20's). The front firing port directs the surround bass towards the listener while the system sub allows you to feel it through the floor. The "fullness" of the sound from a larger cabinet is one feature I am particularly fond of - given it matches the speakers (in other words - large for large sake is not necessarily good - but can be). Personally I do not have to consider multiple listeners, so a wide dispersion is not necessary for me.

In my opinion - the 20's are the star of the KLF line. 30's and 10's have their slot, but nothing fits my ears as nicely as the 20's. Mated with a C7 and you are approaching nirvana. Best of luck in your quest for the grail.

In my opinion the key/crucial element for any center channel is dialogue/vocals. Get that right and the entire system improves. For dialogue you need to cover essentially the barritone range through at least 2nd tenor. One reason so many find the KLF-C7 such an enjoyable center channel.

I ran Bose 201's for quite awhile as fronts mated to a Bose center. Then I ran them as surrounds. And finally they made it to the garage sale and found another home. Rear speakers carry very little of the total surround system sound (one reason some choose to use a single speaker for 6.1). Use what you have untill you get what you want. If it were me, I'd opt for larger mains, move the 52's to surrounds and the 42's to rears. But it is always easier to spend someone else's money. You could always sell the Bose in a garage sale.

I used my ears. The results sound good to me.

I certainly do like my 663. I seem to recall one difference in the 863 were more HDMI connections.

Side surrounds and rears (7.1) are much less important than the front 3. The RS-42's are rated at mid 90's db. A little tweaking on the surround volume will balance this out for you (based on speaker placement and listener position). If I were to run the 42's I would have them elevated/placed to/at ear level. The side firing bass ports would work for me. As a personal note - I really like towers for surrounds/rears. Front firing bass ports preferred. The SC-25 has plenty of power (140 watts/channel). More than required to drive speakers as efficient as the KLF's

Greatly appreciate the info. Looks like the amp is the way to go.

Sorry I'm not in your area - however I am absolutely mesmerized by my setup. I run it on 7 channel stereo and simply enjoy it every time. Just rented Terminator this past Saturday - full action sound. For surrounds, I personally have/like front firirng ports (Polk Monitor 70's) that to me add a bit of depth. The KSP-S6's are the "made for" surround, however I do not think surrounds or even rears (in 7.1) are nearly as important as the front 3. Again - I am very very happy with my set up and from the center seat on the couch it is grand. The dog went to the door barking due to a door knock in the movie. Many times I hear noises that I'm not sure if they are from a movie or in the house. My room is 22'x22'x22'. Someday I will put 2 rears in the loft.

A Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 is by far the best bang for the dollar. Consistently ranking among the best lenses for quality pics. As a single focal length lens, your feet become the zoom mechanism. Here is a link to all kinds of Nikon/Nikkor info. This is my personal one stop info source for anything Nikon. http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html

Please forgive my ignorance - I have a small MP3 player that I would like to use on my small fishing boat. I think that one can buy a type of receiver and use a USB cable to connect the MP3 to it. Anyone know the types of stereos/receivers/players that accept this connection? Is there a small unit like a converter or something that I could just install and play music through to the boat speakers? Anyone know if Klipsch outdoor speakers would work on a boat? I am kind of starting from scratch except I already have a SanDisk MP3 player.

Please forgive my ignorance, however I am not sure what the rear baffle is. If you are referencing the rear panel on the speaker cabinet, then it is somewhat common for them to become loose (on the Legend series) and in need of regluing. Relatively simple procedure and no need for new cabinets. Please ignore this reply if I have mis-understood the problem.

KLF-C7 is the best center channel for the 20's - bar none. Well worth the effort to locate one. Some think it is one of the best center channels - period. Running your KLF-20's on "phantom" is a very doable option, whereby you split your center into your 2 mains. Surrounds to me are not that important as far as "matching" goes. Upgrade whenever you can. KSP-S6's are the match to the Legend series, however I really like my Monitor 70 towers. Bumped a couple db to adjust for efficiency and they are great. Of course I upgraded from a pair of Bose 201's. With your current speaker set, simply run phantom in the front, your kg3.5's in the back and enjoy. Upgrade when you can - enjoy in the meantime. C7's come up here every couple months or so. http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/kg-3-5-specifications/ What I specifically like about these rears of yours is the bottom ports face forward (like my Monitor 70's). To me, this is an advantage. Placment of the KLF-20's with the rear ports a bit from the wall and the use of the surround speakers with the front ports facing the listening area - simply works for my taste. Best of luck in your decisions.

My C7 is placed above my 32" decade old Sony Wega.

Mine sit adjacent to the cabinet. With spacing inside the cabinet, the TV is probably 6" from the speaker cabinet, and likey right at a foot from the magnets themselves. The only trouble I have had with color is when I try to watch the free movies from Comcast channel 1. I always attributed the problem to comcast. I have zero color issues with either normal TV veiwing or DVD's. I enjoy the Sony Wega so much that to me, this HD craze is not worth the difference in costs. My picture quality is superb and the Klispch Legend sound is the cream on top.