Gadgtfreek, I tried Pure Direct just to see if I could get that chest shaking bass you speak of. And to see if you were just down right crazy! Guess what, I found it! The RF7ii sound really good in Pure Direct which I never noticed until you started talking about it. It made me curious and made me try it again, thanks for that. I think the reason I didnt hear it beofre is because I didnt turn it up enough. Without the .1 subwoofer, at least for me, I have to turn the volume up quite a bit to compensate for no woofer. Pretty impressive. But, I think I still like the .1 on subwoofer and direct mode as long as I turn the bass down on sub. either way, they rock!