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Just some friendly advice. If she wants a MAC get her a MAC or no computer at all. If her mind is set on that, a PC will not make her happy. I have seen this many times with friends that have had their kids want ipods and the parents buy them Zunes,Sansa etc...

Dennis, where can you find one of those woofers? I came up empty on a google search for that part number.

Sounds cool, can you post a picture of the setup?

WMcD Very nice post. I know when I use the traditional corner placement with my KLF-20's the bass is very strong. I think the KLF series are voiced to be away from corners and out in the room a bit for better tonal balance. I just can not imagine a properly working pair being considered bass shy ever.

Early units were painted veneer, later units, as things go are vinyl. Great speaker either way.

If your KLF-20's are bass shy; 1) there is something terribly wrong with them, blown woofers etc. 2) you have a different defintion of bass than the rest of us. KlF-20's should have lots of bass A crossover upgrade is the the direction to go. Pull the woofers out of the cabinets and make sure the DCR is in family with what it should be, I am guessing in the high 3 to 5 ohm range for those, also check for rubbing cones as th epyle built woofers of that era can have issues if handled roughly.

Try calling Klipsch at 1(800) klipsch for the woofers. If one unit is moving more than the others you may have an air leak.

Hi Sam, The KG-5.5 is a very nice speaker, not alot of modifications for it that I am aware of. You might try: 1) making sure the motorboards are still glued tight, the KG and KLF series of that time had glue problems. 2) consider different capacitors in the crossovers to change the sound a bit. 3) change out the diaphrams in the horns to titanium units

My opinion and experiences will run against the advise given so far but here goes... Keep the Forte II's, the La Scala will have a larger sound stage and play slightly louder but either can do serious damage to your ears so that part is academic. The size room you have just is nort going to work with the La Scalas. You would be much better off spending some money treating the room and possibly some different source equipment. The Fortes or Forte II's are hard to beat in a smallish room.

Hi. I am hoping someone can help me with this problem. My cherry RF-7s have some scratches on them that seem to go through the shiny finish. What is the finish on these? How can I restore them? Anyone have expereience with the late model finishes? Thanks so much.

I will put my money behind the Chorus II. I really like how they are voiced and prefer the tight bass to the bass of the Cornwall.

Cornwalls sound their best with tubes and can sound harsh at high volumes, but over 110dB it does not seem to matter much.. I prefer the presentation of the Chorus II to the Cornwall.

Hey man, that is almost ten posts a year! I thought I might catch Colter soon.

No not really, better than the K77 but not sure if that will yield the best bang for the buck. None available for the K-77 at this time, you would have to modify the cabinets to accept a more modern tweeter but might be cheaper than the Crites tweeters. I also prefer the Cornwall to the Cornwall III, not much of a titanium gut I guess, but few will share that view. I actually like the Cornwall II the best of all of the Cornwalls.

These questions always insight quite a bit of debate. I have owned most floorstanders produced by Klipsch and can say in my opinion the best Klipsch for the money is the original Forte. Deeper bass than the Cornwall, take up less space than a Cornwall, better tweeter than a Cornwall, much smoother response than a Cornwall. Klipsch really went all out on those. I would very much like to see a Forte III added to the Heritage line. The Cornwall is a great speaker, heck I have three pairs of them. However the Forte is the only Klipsch I like with all types of music and amplification. They sing with SS and tube.

Hi Jim, Are you saying you like the KLF-20 better overall? If that is the case I agree with you. The RF-7 is a lot of fun, but I find that they fatigue me and the KLF-20 does not. The build quality on the drivers of the KLF-20 is very good. I will agree that the cabinets are not up to the quality of the RF-7 cabinets. Many people including myself had to deal with the dreaded loose baffle.

Hi Jerohm, Colter is wrong in this case as they use the same diaphragms. They look about the same to me too. I think they K-79 may be a little deeper overall. I will check when I get home. As I recall the K-79 is run flat out in the Chorus, KLF-30, and Cornwall II, while the K-75 is attenuated in the Forte and Forte II. The efficiency might be the same or very close, I have not checked the phasing plugs or gaps to see if they are the same.

Hi Mark, Actually the K-24 has a free air resonance in the ball park of the K-23, the spec you are referring to may be the low end response in the sealed Heresy cabinet, it will go lower in the Forte cabinet. The K-31 is has specs very close to the K-23 and the free air resonanse is very close also. The sound almost the same in my Forte cabinets. I notice the bass is rolled of when I use the K-28 or the K-24.

Hi Mark, I am sorry to hear about your woofer problem. The K-23 is fairly robust, regardless of what replacement you choose you may want to get to the root of the problem, too much volume, subsonics, or liberal use of bass boost so it does not happen again. It is interesting that Klipsch told you to use the K-24, the DCR is wrong on it for the Forte, but the rest of the specs are close. When I bought a set of replacement woofers from Klipsch for my pair they were suggesting the K-28 which is used in the Heresy III. I would suggest you use the K-31, it was used in the KLF-30, and the specs are almost indentical to the K-23. The K-31 will cost you more but it is a fine woofer and works great in the Forte. Also, be sure to replace both woofers. You can sell the K-23 that works along with the bad one a recoup some of the costs for the K31's.

It appears to be a K-23-K out of an early Forte to me, inverted rubber surround, ribbed paper cone, large magnet..

Thanks for the information Wuzzer. I was able to find the information on the Klipsch site, what I am actually looking for is the Glossy type brochure like the dealer would have had. When I get speakers I always make up a binder for them with the brochures, owners manuals, receipts, and any test or reviews I can find, it is kind of cool when I can not listen to them to be able to check out the binders. All I am short on for the RF-7's is the glossy brochure, my searches on Klipsch, and google turned up nada... As for crossovers, I was able to find that DeanG does them, I am hoping to find the actual mods to implement myself for monetary reasons.

Does anyone have a scan of the Reference brochure that would have the RF-7 in it? Or is there a stand alone brochure for the RF-7? I came across a very nice pair locally here and have been very happy with them. Also heard there are some crossover mods, but could not find them in the archives, can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks so much.

Not golf, but something equally frustrating... Tennis...

I live in the Denver area. I am not sure of the loudness, but enough to exercise the cones a bit. I think the problem with bringing them back was based on the time I have had them, just short of two months. They have been powered by many amp including a home brew SET, a Dynaco ST-70, and various SS amps, but now are hooked up to a Hafler 500. They difinately have a higher WAF so they will probably stay around for a bit.

I think you nailed it Arky, my younger brother prefers the RF-7's to my Heritage speakers. It should be a kick butt HT rig however.