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About EJC

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  1. enjoy!
  2. If you're still considering the Yamaha RX-A 860, I just spotted a couple of refurbs on NewEgg.com for $695
  3. I had to laugh as I read you comment (I do not mean this as an insult). How things have changed. The old rule of thumb used to be put your money in the speakers, you'll be replacing the electronics.
  4. You nailed the reason I got the RX-A860. I started with the 1060 but couldn't find a big enough difference to spend the extra $400. Frankly, the salesman didn't try to push on the 1060 either. He understood what I was doing and felt the 860 would fill the bill
  5. We are in the same age bracket and I can't stand the speed with which expensive equipment is obsoleted today. I am also a Yamaha fan and currently have 4 Yamaha receivers in use. Regarding your comments on speaker power; Speaker ratings are typically maximum power rating and you will rarely be playing anything near those ratings. An amp with clean power will not damage your speakers, distortion will. Most of the time you're only pushing a couple of watts anyway. Since the late 60's I've had only 3 incidents of speaker damage. 2 were foam surrounds dying of old age, not a power or distortion issue. The 3rd was a Klipsch SW that blew, the driver went bad because the amp went bad, I replaced both with drop-in replacements from Parts Express and although I guess it is no longer technically a Klipsch it is still running strong. I just set up a system with a Yamaha RX-A860 and it plays plenty loud and is clean. Speakers are M-L Edge in-wall (Front effects), M-L SLM (Center), Klipsch Heresy rebuilds (R&L), and a Parts Express Titanic SW.
  6. I've owned a pair of Forte IIs since 1989, purchased new. About 5 years abo I did the Crites X-Overs and titanium diaphragms. Short of becoming homeless these speakers will be in a system in my home. The are simply fanatastic They are in an AV system as the Main L&Rs They function in the AV setup and are great if I switch to stereo to listen the TT. As far as I'm concerned, Fortes are a buy and never look back.
  7. Hi Matt. I just did a complete rebuild of a pair of Heresys in December. Below is a video I made of the project. Some on the forum criticized me for my budget on the project - $1500, but in the end I had a virtually new pair of speakers with modern/updated drivers. Your experience is exactly why I went my route. I knew I could not leave a 40yr old pair of speakers alone and that is assuming there were no other issues with a used pair of almost 40yr old speakers. Crites was able to supply everything I needed and the misc. stuff was found on Amazon. I hope the video helps
  8. I am partial to Yamaha as well. I've been using Yamaha since the late 80's. They're solid, dependable and sound great. I am currently running 4 Yamaha receivers and love the sound and have had no issues. Plus, their customer service is excellent with questions. I also would not be worried about power ratings of the speakers. That is usually continuous power which I seriously doubt you will ever experience. Most of the time the amp will be pushing just a couple of watts. Get a quality amp with the highest power rating and lowest distortion levels you can afford, more speakers are destroyed by clipping and distortion than power.
  9. I found them on E-bay for $75 + $15 shipping. I love the color
  10. Now that the Heresys are installed, and the M-Ls balanced I'll agree with you. Initially at low volumes, like I leave it low often, the M-Ls alone weren't bad. But at the listening point when I went to drive them harder they were breaking up. The smaller drivers and short cones couldn't handle it. And for A/V the 3 M-Ls were a disaster. Once I put in the Heresys and balanced the bass going to the M-Ls the system changed completely and filled out the room nicely. The M-Ls are no longer bottoming out, the bedroom wall is not vibrating and the room fills with sound nicely. And at this stage, the reflections help. When I switch to video the Center channel is no longer over-driven, the Heresys helped here as well. And the other night, we watched "Hacksaw Ridge" and never missed the rear channels. The sound with the front 5.1 was more than adequate to give a great A/V experience. So yes, I'll agree, NOW the room reflections help give a good listening experience. Lessons learned: 1- Just because they are pros doesn't mean they know everything, mistakes can still occur 2- Whether hobbyist or Pro, READ THE MANUALS!!!!!!!!! 3- Don't expect a speaker to do more than it is built to do 4- Google can usually get you the answers you need, in all probablity, someone else had the same problem. I solved the lo-pass issue on the Yamaha with google, while I was on hold with Yamaha customer service. How to access the x-over points in the Yamaha menu is a bit tricky (hidden) 5- And finally, just because something is a modern design doesn't mean that it is better. In this case, a 50yr old design saved the system Thank you Paul Klipsch!
  11. Thanks for the compliment on the videos. It has been an interesting learning curve and as you can see from the micing best efforts can still get screwed. But I was going out of town and didn't have time to redo the first clip. Then there is the factor on how well the mic and camera will record the full frequency response of the recording. I really am not a fan of doing this kind video, despite having done a few. The recording itself - Booker T and the MGs were 60s jazz/rock - and as most music from the period, it was not overly focused on bass. Today they seem to have gone too far to the opposite extreme. but, the song does have a nice bass line. At this point, I am very happy with the sound. Depending on how you're listening to the recording it can sound like there is little bass, but it's there and it's good. I didn't go into the details in this post (I did in another post) but I was able to tame things nicely. So, I'll go through it now. The room is roughly 30x30 with an 18' ceiling. The Right side is open with a balcony above. The Left side is roughly 20' of windows. There is also ~10' of sloping ceiling on either side of a 10' window section (this section has an 18' ceiling) The Rear is about 1/2 open into the kitchen Hardwood floors on cement slab. There is a large center area rug and large right angle sectional couch at the listening position. The right angle section of the couch is on the left. To start out, I had the system (TV and M-L speakers) installed by Magnolia. Part of what I ended up doing was correcting their mistakes. It took a bit of playing around but I think I got the system dialed in nicely. I had originally wanted to avoid floor standing speakers out of deference to the wife. I thought the M-L would do it but they didn't. They sounded great in the showroom but they just didn't fill the room and they were distorting. The first thing I discovered setting up the YPAO was one of the M-Ls was out of phase. So much for professional installers. There was also a vibration to the bedroom wall behind the living room. I checked the manual and discovered that the installers should have insulated around the speakers. So, at 11pm (OCD is showing) I'm pulling the speakers (not fun) correcting the phase error, pitting dynamat on the plaster board and stealing insulation from the attic (I didn't have any spare insulation). This improved things but it still wasn't right. This was when I decided to go the Heresy1 project. They made a huge difference, but the M-Ls still sounded like the were distorting with the speaker cones bottoming out. Back to the M-L manual to check the frequency response, again not done by the installers. I adjusted the Yamahas Lo-pass filters, it took some hunting to find them in the menu. the system balanced out nicely. The system now sounds great, the vibration is gone, the M-L are not bottoming out. The SubW and Heresys provide plenty of bass. All is good
  12. I previously posted on the complete rebuild of the heresy 1s. They are being used in a 5.1 system as the Front Mains. I originally was going to use the M-L Edge in-walls as the mains but I didn't like the sound. the small short cone drivers were distorting on bass. The M-Ls are now used as a Front Effects. For any interested, here is a sound test of the system, 1st with the Heresy's alone followed by the Heresys with the M-Ls. 1- I'll warn now, my miking at the start for the intro is louder than the test. I used the on-camera mike and it recorded at a higher level. The music was recorded with a wide angle shotgun mike. 2- I brought it up through youTube on Amazon Fire and the 5.1 did pass through giving a fuller sound than a laptop. (I would guess Chromecast would do the same) 3- Bob Crites supplied all parts for the Heresy 1 rebuilds except for wire, gaskets and misc. crap The Room: The room is an audio horror story. 18' ceilings. Lots of reflections. Left side windows in center with sloping rise to ceilings on either side. Right side is open. Rear is open. The System: Speakers: 5.1 but not as you'd expect. The setup is all front. L&R Mains - Klipsch Heresy1 (1979) complete rebuilds L&R Effects - Martin-Logan Edge in wall Center - Martin-Logan SLM surface mount Subwoofer - Parts Express - Dayton Titanic 10" Receiver: Yamaha RX-A860 Turntable - Fisher Studio Standard MT-273 Direct Drive (1983) - checked out professionally with cartridge prior to being put into service Cartridge - Ortofon PM-10 TV - Vizio 70" UHD The Song: Booker T and the MG's - "Soul Dressing" My impressions: 1- The Heresys (and SW) do a fine job on their own, but add in the M-Ls and set it to 7ch stereo and the room just erupts in a great sound 2- In this room, the rears were not missed when watching Hacksaw Ridge. The room reflections seem to adequately fill in the void
  13. Maybe, I guess i accidentally scrolled down the page too far but now I can't find the page again Finally, had a brain fart and checked my History, yes it was the 15's. Sorry for the screw up
  14. Now I'm trying to figure out what the hell i was looking at, I thought it was the 396. LOL
  15. Please don't misunderstand my question. I'm the last to question someone since I love gear as well. So please take this as for my informational purposes. 1- I love Klipsch. I've loved Klipsch since I first heard a pair of K-Horns in a showroom in Cleveland in '72, when I was in Dental school, But I didn't have room to park to VW's in my living room (forget the financials for the moment) 2- You already have Forte IIs. Although these are a 30yr old design, they are still a great speaker and can be upgraded thanks to Crites and remain a great speaker for the next 30yrs. I have not seen a spec sheet for the IIIs but can their performance be that much greater than the IIs to warrant the expense of $3600? I see the IIIs can bee bi-wired or bi-amped, Crites did this for me when I upgraded the x-overs on my IIs. The new diaphragm helped the tweeter response. So for A couple hundred $ the performance of the IIs can be upgraded. Is the performance of the IIIs that much better than modified IIs? I don't know about your wife, but my apologies for sounding like my wife. 3- The 396's may be a different story. But again is there enough to be gained to warrant the $3800? Personally, I prefer the 3-way design and can live without the electronics and remote. 4- In a Live performance in the 60's on of the Kingston Trio ( I don't recall if it was Nick, Bob or John) commented: "Did you ever want something bad that when you finally got it all you could do was look at it". I just installed a system in a vacation home ( I think you've seen the pics, so I'll spare you). I A/B'd speakers for the room at the dealer, I wanted to try to avoid floor standing speakers for the wife. I decided on a pair of M-L Edge in the walls for my mains. At $3200, they were more than I wanted to spend. They were a disaster for A/V. I went with the Heresy 1 rebuild with all new drivers and x-overs (again I'll spare you the pics) as my mains, adjusted the receiver lo-pass filters and the system took on a new life. The Heresys and M-Ls actually compliment each other very nicely for music in 7ch mode. I mention this because had I gone with what I knew would work, Klipsch floor standing speakers, all would have been fine. And I could have saved some green.