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Gorm, I can't comment on the driver changes, caps or attenuating drivers. My LaScalas are not in the 20x40 room I bought them for years ago; where people would drop their knees when the Mac gear turned on. They are now in a 16x 14 room, which is safe to say sub optimal. At least part of what you are running into are reflected sounds, standing waves and varying levels of absorption at higher volumes. To calm things down a bit, the wall opposite the LS is floor to ceiling bookshelves, mostly books, sliding door panels have heavy insulated curtains, floor has an 80% area rug, furniture has cloth covers and large pillows, LS are aimed at the listening chair and resting on thick cotton door mats. Detail is quite good, bass can be a little boomy, could be the bass fad on new CDs. At higher volumes, a certain brightness begins to appear, not surprisingly opening the doors and windows seems to moderate the problem noticably. I'm guessing that higher freqs don't absorb as well and perhaps bounce off of the drywall creating very fast echos or standing waves. I don't think you can have too much damping. I have a pair of Heresy's in a small bedroom, higher volumes the brightness starts to appear, go into the hallway and the brightness is gone. Thanks, for all of the comments above. I'm thinking the first thing I need is a bigger house.

I recall that I could get them in Birch, Cherry or Walnut. I went with Birch, it was a car or the speakers, but I still had to put gas in the old one. 6 cars later, I still have the La Scalas[]

My bad, I keep forgetting that Chrome posts get packed making reading more difficult, reposted using Explorer Found the information that is used to design compression algorithms (mp3 and others) and music designed for MP3 players. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_neuroscience_of_music My summary, all of the tones, buzzing and hissing that are common in the top 40 are put there for a reason. To trick the Brain into either ignoring sonic components or getting the brain to estimate what is missing and create it for you. There is no free lunch. For the record, I find the noise generated for the top 40 to be irritating in its own right and probably masks some really mediocre performers that the studios are pushing.

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I had a sub-12 a real room shaker for movies, not terribly accurate but I loved it. Decided to switch to the RW-12, because it is directional instead of down-firing. The RW is far more accurate IMHO, but not a room shaker for movies. The reason I say it is more accurate, is listening to Alison Krause Live Blue Ray Concert, you can clearly hear every pluck of the bass, sounds real to me. Depends on the application, if I get a bigger place I may add a down-firing sub and turn it on for movies behind the sofa. Hope this helps

Bruce, If as you say is true, what happens when the singers clip out on the upper range? Over compression?

Mine arrived today, about 4 days after I ordered. Two holes in the box, but no apparent damage to the sub. Front grill is deformed, so I will be contacting Klipsch for a replacement. I'll plug it in over the weekend and check the thumping. A deal at $300. Did they say if there are more in the pipeline, or is this the end?

BUMMER IKEA lists the max load for most of their stuff. If you use the 5 cubes tall by 1 wide side by side units; you shouldn't have a repeat. I'm guessing the whole bottle of Elmer's wouldn't have made any difference. Same load factors but the 5x1 would have had 8 more vertical load bearing risers. Again, I would use a 1/4 Masonite or furniture grade plywood backing on each 5x1 shelving unit secured with 1 inch ring shank flat head nails ( aluminum roofing nails would work, you can spay paint the heads before installing them) and a fine bead of silicone adhesive all the way around. I would paint the backing (on both sides) before installing it. I would cut the backing about 1/2 inch shorter and 1/2 less wide than the shelf dimensions and be sure to paint the edges. If you are like me and don't have the tools or the skills, pay a cabinit maker to cut the wood for you or the lumber yard may do it for a modest fee. Product dimensions Width: 58 5/8 "Depth: 15 3/8 " Height: 58 5/8 " Max load/shelf: 29 lb Width: 149 cm Depth: 39 cm Height: 149 cm Max load/shelf: 13 kg Product dimensions Width: 17 3/8 "Depth: 15 3/8 " Height: 72 7/8 " Max load/shelf: 29 lb Width: 44 cm Depth: 39 cm Height: 185 cm Max load/shelf: 13 kg

Promo code is needed to get the price down the extra $200, offer expires 2-15. Maybe there will be the next offer? At these prices I decided to pick up one more (for a total of 2), with the thought that I can sell it for what I paid a year or two down the road if I changed my mind. Accuracy is great with these RW12d units, I still regret selling my sub 12 for its room shaking quality's for movies like the transformers. My friend loves it. The record for UPS is two crushed units before the third arrived intact inside of a crushed box. We'll see if UPS will try to smash their record and go for 3 crushed sub-woofers this time. I would love to see their warehouse where all of the crushed speakers and amps find their final resting place. It must be big.

I would not glue the dowels, the units stay together as designed.

You can also get a number of the individual 5 cube tall by 1 wide units and line them up, very flexible and very sturdy. If you wanted to add a backing, a 1/4 Masonite sheet should do the trick, you could probably fasten it into place with some screws and clear silicone adhesive all the way around. Very sturdy

I am up to my eye-balls in amps, and I am now experimenting with various pre-amps. So far, the Vintage Yamaha's are pretty darn good. Soon, I will be experimenting with using my Pioneer HTS as the pre-amp fronting 3 Class A Yamaha amps. Emotiva has on paper a pretty good modern pre-amp, is there anything else near it in this price performance range. I may pick up a mint used to put it side by side with my Mac and Yamaha and have a bake off. Having said that, transparent should be transparent? Any suggestions on FAVs both modern and vintage (Yamaha)? I will be running the pre-amps through Mac and Yamaha amps and driving my La Scalas.

Consider buying a used TOTL line Pioneer receiver and using it as the pre-amp DAC, you should be able to get one for a few hundred dollars. You can pre-amp anything you like this way. My suggestion is to pick up a Yamaha MX-800 Class A A-B 170WRMS power amp. Set the gain controls at 12 so you don't tear your speakers apart. $350 mint MX 800. The pioneer can be used on direct from the DAC to the pre-amp section. Check out the TOTL pre HDMI interface receivers with the best decoder chips, this things will also pump 120WRMS over 7 channels and have a LP Sub out you can jack a sub into.

I will say that it depends on the application. If you are going straight stereo, I would keep the top 2 or 3 and deploy them around the house. If you are using them behind your HTS receiver in order to get Class A sound, they I would choose my favorite and buy or trade for 3 more just like it so you can run 5.1 or 7.1 in Class A. YMMV

Someone should run an Advertisement in the singles pages for a week of touring, fine dining and "clubbing" in France and see who replies. Be sure to specify females so that her husband is not first in line.

Living near Chicago, power outages are not uncommon, frequently with several bounces before the failure. I have almost everything in the house on power strips of one type or another mostly for convenience since the outlets aren't near the appliance in many cases. I think the idea of grounded whole house lightning protection is intuitively obvious once the idea is put forth. A problem with a $100 solution is no problem at all. As to the power conditioning, my friend who designs IC for very expensive industrial equipment summarized it nicely for me, "yes a clean sine wave is a good idea". To my eye, the Plasma picture improved as did the sound of the stereo. If its a placebo, its a good one, my 12 year old noticed the difference immediately in the TV picture. YMMV

Don't monster and some other vendors make a little box just for this sort of problem? Check on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Monster-SS-6-Speaker-Switcher-Speakers/dp/B00004Y3UY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328746310&sr=1-3

If the LaScalas can't reproduce it, they won't. If you overdrive them, you will damage them just like before the EQ. I did a blind test when I purchased my Heresy's, with the bass turned up they approached the K=Horns. So I purchased them. Later the issue came down to portability and corners; so I purchased the LaScalas, which can hardly be said to be lacking bass. Now I have 1 RS12d sub and will probably purchase a second one, they are very plucky and make me bounc up and down with the Transformers are in my TV room, I may even get a couple of shakers so I can really stress the wire nails holding the house up. YMMV

After reading the first 10 pages of this post, I began to sink into a dark place or at least a quite one with poor sound reproduction. So I decided to read Audiovox's web site, the are clearly giddy that Klipsch is #1 or #2 in all of their spaces and a supplier to Apple. Perhaps the marketing and engineering guys will be able to overcome the M&A guys desire to make the compay pay fast by gutting it. AKA turning the milk cash cow into hamburger for a fast buck. I also hope that the new owners realize that most people aspire to own a Mercedes based on the image and prestige of their very high end products, most settle for a 300E to fulfull the dream. That said, most can't afford or have the space for the Heritage line, but most want to own one. Klipsch is already into the soundbar space and surround in a box, hopefully the new owners will produce MB190s for the space and not Yugos. I'll wait and see. If the new owners decide to exit the high quality end, I'll vote with my feet.

Good idea to mirror the site. No way..........until they buy the company then they can do whatever they want. I can host the forums and try and download and save all the forum posts but that will take time.

More economic devistation by the Black Hand of Government withering peoples hopes and dreams.

Top 10 iTunes songs in the USA: Sexy and I know it on a $30K stereo or ear buds...............probably ear buds. Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) Kelly Clarkson Set Fire to the Rain ADELE Turn Me On (feat. Nicki Minaj) David Guetta & Nicki Minaj Good Feeling Flo Rida Domino Jessie J Sexy and I Know It LMFAO Somebody That I Used to Know (feat. Kimbra) Gotye Give Me All Your Luvin' (feat. Nicki Minaj, M.I.A.) Madonna International Love (feat. Chris Brown) Pitbull Smooth Criminal (Glee Cast Version) [feat. 2CELLOS (Sulic & Hauser)] Glee Cast

Check out the shop I listed in Rockford that sells refirb equipment. See what the inventory is, then do some research on the old Yamaha and Sansui EQs they have on hand. This is a question with a $100 answer. If in the end you don't want the EQ you can dump it on e-bay for what you paid for it. I put a Pioneer GR777 between my DAC-Pre-amp and my amp which is driving my Heresy's in the bedroom (my test lab stereo). The base boost was both noticable and pleasing. In the next few weeks, I will be re-connecting my Mac Stack C32 and 2205 to my La Scalas. Part of the trial process will be DAC direct C-32 EQ on and off. Then Mac EQ defeat with external Yamaha and Pioneer EQs between the DAC and the C-32. I will try the stand alone DAC and using my Pioneer Elite as the DAC comparisson too. Just for fun, once I have settled on the analog HW, I will run the same music with the LaScalas stand alone and with my new RW12D sub for comparission. My expectation is that the RW will sound a little more accurate on the Bass string plucks. Just a guess. Then the question of upgrading the LaScala woofers to alnico, or other drivers, will really matter for bass pluck test accuracy? Alison Krause live louisville concert DVD is a good acustic test for any stereo, its easy to isolate on one instrument or voice.

The Sorting capabilities are much better. There could be more criteria. Stereo receivers appear to be completely missing. More and more easily accessible pictures front and back would be nice. IMHO a step in the right direction, but a work in progress.

IMHO, get one of the vintage solid state receivers or integrated amps. You get the most bang for the buck, and the analog part stopped getting better years ago. For the digital stuff, outside of the box is fine and allows you to change easily and cheaply. I listed a shop in Rockford IL in the Garage sale section. I would also look at the class A integrated Amps 120WRMS, I snagged one for $70 a few weeks ago. The one thing I would recommend is either a good used CD-DVD 5 disc player with the good DAC chips, or stand alone DAC. The formerly $500 5 disc DVD players can be head for $10, a factory remote can be purchase on-line for $10. With everyone dumping the DVD players, the local goodwill store had a stack of $500 DVD players in excellent condition for $7 each, but this won't last forever.