Dave A

I know you are space restricted so if you are interested I can sell you my small MCM 1900 set. I think I am going to need that space real soon ;D

If you agree with me you are smart. If you don't you are not even though I refuse to research what you say. OD = NPC = BEEP BEEP BOOP BOOP

Hi Fi Buys had no Klipsch the day I was there. I would have kept those Jubes too. Star Wars was pretty awesome.

Well you will never find Pro gear in stores. I run KPT-456's and my daily listener is an MCM 1900 so I applaud your decision making process. The Pro gear has far more presence than all the rest. Budget is a relative thing and to some $16,000++ is reasonable. I am a cheap skate and like hunting for good old Pro gear. KPT 902 and 456 show up at times and take up just a bit more space than Cornwalls and have that sound and physical impact you are seeking. My personal favorite (based on systems you are likely to be able to find and getting systems like the MCM 1900 is next to impossible and much larger.) is the systems which use the bass bin found in the KPT 902 and 456 and KP-450. They turn up on occasion for $500 to say $1,600 for a set and they will blow you away. If I were buying new I would run past the consumer Klipsch department and go right to the Theater systems and get the KPT-904 or even better the KPT-942. Third would be Jubilees. Cory is a good guy to deal with for new theater systems.

There are a number of Klipsch forum guys in your area. Keep posting so this floats to the top and they will find you. Or start a new post requesting people in your area get in touch if they are willing to have you stop in. Most will be. You say PA. You mean Pro gear?

Hey Claude, Festool tracksaw on the way and picking up lumber next Monday. Are you ready for this?

Quote from a famous audio philosopher. Beep Boop

NPC stuck on replay Dean.

OK I went back to the original OD comment and quoted it correctly this time. How about this version Jason?

Fixed again for Jason and the third time below is the charm.

Fixed for Jason

Soldered lug K-55-V's and the best ones ever.

I know this is how it is currently set up and if they help one they need to help them all. I have a set of Chorus I's in my shop right now. In the original shipping box from the only owner since new and he bought them at Hi Fi Buys in Nashville in 1990. Today the best speakers at Hi Fi Buys are these truly execrable B&W things. I believe if good Klipsch was put side by side there Klipsch would outsell B&W hands down. So the premier audiophile store in Nashville does not have even one Klipsch speaker to hear. I would like to know what incentives they were offered to carry inferior gear by the OEM. It is hard to buy something you can't hear without a large trip being involved for many. My guess is that B&W made Hi Fi Buys an offer which includes some stock at very heavy discount or show room stock provided or larger profit margins. They had to do something Klipsch was unwilling to do and so Klipsch loses a city to the competition because they did not show up. Hey Cory how come your Jubes don't show up in your stock picture? Those are awesome speakers and the best ones there when I came to listen.

Playing off phone and tablets is not a good source and any demo jock showing you that is selling to convenience oriented smart phone users not audiophiles. I sell vintage Klipsch and shudder every time someone comes over and wants to use their iPhone as a source. I let them do it and then say OK now we do it my way and the look on their faces is always funny. Half of them go home, and I always follow up to see how things are going, and tell me it does not sound as nice as it did in my shop. Using the iPhone again? The ones not happy sheepishly say yes and when they stop doing that and feed the speakers the right way all is well. You ran into two places that do not have a clue is the problem. Ask on the forum and see if there is anyone close by to you who has gear like you want and go listen to things set up correctly. I have been to Best Buys Cool Springs in Nashville and it was all twenty some aged bored sales clerks who could not answer anything I asked about the meager line of Klipsch gear in the store that day. Sadly good Klipsch dealers seem to be few in number.

I think so too. This thread just needs to end although it has been amusing at times. Happy New years everyone.

Gosh Dave and here you go picking on us all. Must be the chromosome thing eh ;D

Emile if this continues you might need to get an intervention going and join Audioholics Anonymous.

Glad you found the problem. I have had 9 sets of those bass bins now and anemic is not a word I could ever use describing them. I can take the same wattage that makes a Forte II sound good and switch them over to a set of KPT-456's and the volume increases dramatically. A 200 watt per channel amp is more than enough for me and I rarely even get past half way on volume. Those are life time keeper speakers when you get them set up right.

Add to it "mine is better than yours" "No it isn't better"

Sorry OD for neglecting this. I though you were making leading comments to try and cause trouble or obfuscate what I believe in. I had no idea you were serious

Indeed how true. I am hoping to be close enough in a month to not hunger for more. But if things never got any better I could live with a smile on my face for a lifetime.

Never been to Vegas but I know fraud has reached out to me in rural Tennessee.

As Dean says on the capacitors. I just got in 4 Kp-101's which are right at the age of the KLF's you have. Every capacitor in all four but one measured at least .3 ESR although the capacitance was in tolerance. First thing I did was replace them all for an immediate more musical sound. Sometimes I like Ti sometimes I don't and since the crossovers all get rebuilt I have to suspect some horn lenses and drivers get shrill with Ti while others don't seem to act that way. If it is a speaker problem my experience has been the only cure for shrill has at times been to replace the tweeter. I also like those old phenolic diaphragms too. Mid range has not been the shrill culprit for what I have had here. As Dean also says above. I just swapped a music library with a guy who had a TON of albums in there and the total file size per album was typically 70 to 80mb. None of them played well and all have to be redone through Audacity the editing program to be OK. Some seem to be hopeless and I don't know what his source was but I would have quickly looked elsewhere. Look up "Audacity" on the forums and Chris A has excellent information on this. I tell people to bring their music here when they come to buy speakers so they have a reference point they can relate to. Then I take their files and run it through Audacity and normally they are 44kbs. I jump that up to 96 or 192kbs and go to effects and normalize it with the settings to "0" and export the file with the highest settings which are level 8 and 24 bit. 3/4ths or more of the music just comes alive and it is funny to see the look on their faces. Audacity is a free program and is the #1 cheapest way to improve your sound and find out if your file is even worth keeping. #2 is capacitors which I always do now before I seriously fire them up since nothing that old has measured well here in dozens of sets of speakers. #3 replace the tweeter diaphragm gives improvement normally but replacing the tweeter always does. My experience for what it is worth. Westcoast also makes good points. Many think crossing your speakers to focus just before or after your sweet spot seat is best and then there is another thought about this and see the attachment. Also "RF-7 III...Trying to achieve better off-center imaging" search for that thread. Good sound is the sum of more than one part. When you get into more musical speakers they reveal the ugly just as well as the pretty except unlike cheesy speakers they make the ugly sound really ugly. Setup of WG Speakers.pdf

Yes I bet they bark back at you.

While I could not find exact construction details I feel that for tonal quality and superior strength it is certain MDF was in use here. All the best speaker makers have gone to it.