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    Klipsch Sub-Woofers are they Sealed or Ported ? (help picking speakers)

    in Subwoofers

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    On 4/24/2018 at 10:20 AM, augustya30 said:

    I am looking out for a Sub-Woofer to fit into a room of 10x15 approximately 150 square feet area, I am mostly gonna use if for some very heavy BASS Music like Electronic Dance Music and Progressive House so I really want that BASS coming out of the Sub-Woofer, I want that hard hitting BASS. I really want that dance club kind of listening experience with the Sub, having said that I may occasionally watch a movie also in that. so I would say my requirement is 75% Music and 25% Movies. Which one should I go for Ported or Sealed Sub-Woofers ?

    This brings up some important questions. First, are you actually going to make this a 'Rave Cave' and have people dancing in the room or are you just setting up a nice system to sit on the couch and listen to electronic music? Next, what is your budget and what speakers do you currently have? Third, how handy are you in regards to woodworking and electronics? 

     

    If you really want to get into it. Most electronic dance music venues now run FunktionONE speaker sets which have horn loaded sub woofers. Luckily, you can build your own home version:

     

    http://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/1329971-lilmike-s-cinema-f-20-a.html

     

     

     

    More realistically, Derrick hit the nail on the head earlier with the dual 18'' flat packs with an INuke amp. Even a Single 15'' Reference HO sub with 800 Watts will drop the floor out of that room for about $400 if you get the flat pack. You will never get near a true dance club feel with 10'' or 12'' subs. I personally recommend sealed as you dont need them to dig quite a deep and you really dont want chuffing noise. 

     

    On 4/28/2018 at 2:00 PM, augustya30 said:

    I will summarize it this way I want a Dance Club kind of feel. I do not want to literally convert my room into a Dance Club nor will I be able to even if I wished so :D With home audio and personal audio how can I achieve pro audio level output which one gets in Tommorow Land (Europe) and Miami Dance Festival !! I do know that, but I am trying to replicate a miniature version of it ! My room size is 10x15 approximately 150 Squate Feets.  

    You will never be able to replicate a festival sound in a room. Those systems run tens of thousands of watts into free, open space which is something that you can only get by being outside. However, you can model your room off the gold standard for EDM clubs which is Beta Nightclub in Denver which many top DJs agree is their favorite place to play due to the sound system and setup.

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    As you can see, it is based on high efficiency fully horn loaded speakers. Luckily, this can be achieved at home with a nice set of LaScalas and some good subs. Here is a photo of @Youthman's home theater system which  fairly closely replicates the sound system and given your room size will actually be fairly comparable. If you cant budget the $1,200 or so for used LaScalas, the KG 5.5's usually run about $300 and are great for EDM and mesh really well with direct radiating subs. So if you can pony up about $800 then get some KG 5.5s or similar, and a flat pack 15'' sub with an INuke 1000 you will be pretty well set for a decent system.

     

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    The point here is you can achieve a pretty unreal system at home to rival some of the best clubs in the world but we really need to know what your budget is and how far you are willing to do down the rabbit hole to achieve this. This forum is a great place and we are more than happy to walk you through each step of getting gear and setting up your room.

     

    Also, dont post Dropbox links, it looks sketchy and if you want to show songs just paste a youtube link and it integrates into the forum:

     

     

    Single Heresy

    in Alerts!

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    5 hours ago, DizRotus said:
     

     

    The speaker or the description?

     

    “i Have for sale this vintage speaker
    this speaker have some damage on cabinet for use weard”

     

    It’s still worth more than $50 to someone who can collect it locally, even if nothing works any better than the seller’s writing.

    The mid driver alone is worth $50. For that price you could build a new cab and paint it black then have a good center channel as long as the drivers are OK. 

    Amplifier Selection Forte III

    in General Klipsch Info

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    6 minutes ago, onzedge said:

     

    Thank you for the kind welcome.  It is a McIntosh MC152 paired with a Parasound Halo P5 Preamp.

    Lol I dont think you need to worry about the 'cheap amp with inferior parts' issue with that thing. Those speakers will sound great with that amp. You may have to post some pictures when they come in as well. A cool thing about the Forte III is Roy Delgado personally designed them. He was Paul Klipsch's protege back in the day and they worked very closely together.  He is also a member on the form as @Chief bonehead and pokes in from time to time give advice and answer questions etc. Much of the horn design on the Forte III came from his work on the professional side and is truly state of the art.

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    "New" era Heresy speakers compared to original version ???

    in Talkin' Tubes

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    On 5/1/2018 at 8:57 AM, decooney said:

    Does the latest version of the Klipsch Heresy speaker sound (better or any) different than the original version?  How so?

     

    I'm looking for a smooth and warmer tone sound, and I've not yet heard the new version Heresy on a really good SET/Triode tube amp before. I'd like to find a good match for my current custom built 10w single-ended-triode amp, with a smaller speaker about the size of the Hersey. I'd love to try a set of the new Heresy speakers, but if they sound like the originals, I'm not a fan of a "PA" type sound at all.  I tried a set of the 2016 Klipsch RP-160M bookshelf monitors and recently re-sold them, nice but not the right match.  A rep told me to try the brand new Heresy speakers instead. 

     

    I'm curious if anyone here has liked the new Hersey version a lot more, or can explain how it sounds different than the original version. I'm afraid if I bought a set and they sounded to "PA" like, I'd fine myself wanting to mess with the crossovers, caps changing until I could get the tone smoothed out a bit more if they sound like the originals.  Any feedback from the folks here on the tube forum?

    If you can come up with the extra cash, you might want to look into the new Forte III speakers. They are known for being very balanced and have a state of the art mid-range horn. With them being Roy's design, they will most likely hold their value very well.

    Amp, pre-amp, receiver advice for Forte IIs

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    On 4/27/2018 at 9:17 PM, Netscout said:

    Picked up a pair of Forte IIs at a yard sale ($20!).  Passives were torn so I ordered a pair of KD 15s and installed them last week.  I have an older Pioneer Elite receiver (VSX 90 TXV), and I’m looking to replace it with something that a. sounds better, and b. has newer features.  My idea is to get a used power amp (Rotel, Adcom, NAD, help me decide there), and then either a pre-amp, processor, or a receiver with pre-out that gives me the newest features: usb, Bluetooth, network port, hdmi (nice to have, not critical), network connectivity, etc.   Definitely open to pre-owned/eBay.  Would ideally spend $150-$250 on the power amp, and about the same on the receiver or preamp.  Any suggestions?  Mainly I want to get the components that bring out the best in the speakers and deliver some modern functionality.  Two channel setup.  Thoughts on class D amps for the Forte IIs?

    I personally like Class D quite a bit and they are a good option for your price range. If you want to do Class D, then this is a good option from Dayton Audio at 40 W per channel:

     

    https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dta-120-class-t-mini-amplifier-60-wpc--300-3800

     

    If you want class A/B, here is another good budget option for the price range:

    https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-apa150-150w-power-amplifier--300-812

     

    It looks like you are setting up a 2 channel stereo so I would stay away from AVR's which can affect the sound and have many more features than you need. What will be the primary source of your music? If you just have a laptop then a quality USB DAC (Digital Audio Converter) like the Schiit Modi 2 or Cambridge Audio DAC Magic 100 are your best bet for $100 to $200. My general rule for audio is the less components from source to speaker, the better off your final sound will be.

     

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    Cleaning smoke from Klipschorns

    in General Klipsch Info

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    1 minute ago, Milk said:

     

    @twk123 Oh I will definitely do that! I just caught them a few months ago here at our local venue that gets decent acts in, such a good party! Love me some infected. Do you have any insight on the crossover specs for stuff like this? The curve on the AK-3 work well? I think I'm keeping the AK-3 in regardless for now, but just curious, especially for future tinkering.

    Honestly, I would keep the networks you have for now and just re-cap them unless you really want to upgrade.

     

    If you  do want to upgrade I would get the  Crites A/4500 crossovers (https://critesspeakers.com/bk-sound-type-a4500-crossov.html) and his CT120 Tweeters. (https://critesspeakers.com/klipsch_tweeters.html). This is what I have on my LaScalas but I bought them this way. Supposedly the original Klipsch tweeters are fairly fragile and the high crossover point causes issues with the mid horn. Bob's tweeters can plan a little lower and his crossover brings the transfer point down some to keep the high frequencies off the mid horn. 

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    Cleaning smoke from Klipschorns

    in General Klipsch Info

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    16 hours ago, Milk said:

    @Wirrunna Thanks for that! Seriously something we've been kicking around and preparing to ask about after I delve into the forums a little. My listening tastes are a little different than most here I would imagine, as I am into electronic music a lot, specifically progressive house and trance/progressive trance, so the debate becomes whether a rebuild from Crites is the way to go or a change in XO to ALK's for different slope...however, my gut instinct is to stay true and just rebuild with the Crites. I love the sound out of the already and we haven't touched anything yet. I'll look into that post you sent too, time to start the investigating now!

    I am a fan of electronic music as well and the Klipsch heritage actually excels at trance and other types of music that have very 'fast' sounds. The horns have a very tactile presence and the immediacy really comes out when you turn the volume up where other speakers start to get muddy. When you finally get it set up, I personally recommend Infected Mushroom's "Never Mind" at the highest SPL you can stand. You can actually feel each and every note they cram in there hit you in the face. Lindsey Stirling's "V-Pop" is amazing as well as you can hear the violin soar above the dubstep beats. When I bought my LaScalas I played Lindsey Stirling to test them out and it convinced the guy to not sell his second pair. B)

     

     

     

    Just picked up a pair of HIP's....now for some questions...please

    in Technical/Restorations

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    17 hours ago, Mighty Favog said:

    O.k., I got the driver compliment.

    K-42

    K-55M

    K-77M

    Networks: HIE

    You got a really good deal, usually I see these listed for $500 plus. Anyway, here is the link to a build thread where I bought a single HIP in bad shape and did a complete tear down and restoration to make it into a boombox. There might be some useful info on painting or recapping the networks etc.

     

     

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    Passive sound bar

    in Home Theater

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    If you want a clean front end then this is not a bad option. I am sure the speakers are all tone matched as well for a seamless front soundstage. That is a lot of money for a passive soundbar though. It will be ok for casual TV and low levels but you will never get the big cinema sound that you can get from standalone speakers. Klipsch is having a sale right now and for a little more  you can get some good floor standing speakers and a center:

     

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/reference-floorstanding-speakers?model=r-28f

     

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/klipsch-reference-center-channel-speakers?model=r-25c

    Vertical Cornwalls in La. Just a tad rough.

    in Alerts!

    Posted

    On 4/20/2018 at 7:44 PM, HiFi Heaven said:

    Stains like these can be removed with a paste of oxalic acid applied with a Q-tip.

    Cover the stain, let it dry, wipe with a damp sponge and reapply as necessary.

    Best cheap source is Bar Keepers Friend at hardware stores.

    This is interesting, I will have to add it to my woodworking toolkit. Between this and citristrip you could refinish these and clean them up nicely. The stained woofers I would be concerned about though.

    Why Is Marijuana Banned? The Real Reasons Are Worse Than You Think

    in Lounge

    Posted

    On 3/16/2018 at 3:42 PM, WillyBob said:

    we can/like to blame Sessions ... but, he doesn't have the power to change the law.    Because the laws ARE on the books,  he, technically, should be enforcing all of them.

     

    I'm not a fan of his, either....  just sayin'

    In a way it is good Sessions is doing what he is doing. Because now it will force the issue and congress will have to come to terms with actually passing legislation to legalize or at least decriminalize instead of keeping Cannabis in the strange grey zone limbo its been in the last 10 years.

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    Center for CF-4?

    in Home Theater

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    3 hours ago, Frzninvt said:

    Just because it wasn't being made at the same time does not mean it wasn't designed for them.  The center came after the line became a hit.  I have the KV-4 user manual and it states the speaker line it was designed for.  You can speculate all you like.

    I do see what you are saying here and agree with you regarding the matching lines. However, the reality is that the KV-4 is nearly impossible to find and probably not in the budget if it can be procured somewhere across the country. As always, speakers are about managing compromises for each option:

     

    Free- Option 1 Phantom: Perfect "timbre match" but voices not locked to the screen.

    $60- Option 2 KV-3: Better timbre match but much smaller speaker that may cause issues keeping up with the CF-4's leading to possible volume issues.

    $300- Option 3 KLF-C7: Not as good timbre match but a larger speaker that can better keep up with the CF-4 speakers. Timbre match could be better meshed after running system through Audyssey. 

     

    So far, in weighing the options, i am more concerned about a center that is too small to keep up with the massive CF-4 mains than the LCR sound stage being a perfect match. If someone else here has run a KV-3 with CF-4's with good results at theater volumes then that will of course sway my decision.

    RIP R Lee Ermey

    in Lounge

    Posted

    19 hours ago, Don Richard said:

     

    He was hired as a consultant for Full Metal Jacket to advise an actor how to act like a Marine drill instructor, and after watching Ermey the director decided to give him the part. The opening scene of Full Metal Jacket is top drawer classic cinema. I would link the YouTube video but it is so NSFW and non politically correct it would surely offend someone.:D He wasn't acting, he was just playing himself. RIP

    I just heard about this today and am pretty bummed. You literally have to watch his FMJ clips 5 or so times to absorb all the crazy things he says the way he throws them one after another off the top of his head. I am probably going to have a smirk on my face the rest of the day just thinking about them.

     

    "Your from Texas...":lol:

    Center for CF-4?

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    1 hour ago, wvu80 said:

     

    I don't follow the C-7 prices but I think the lowest I've ever seen it is $250 plus shipping.  The point is that at $300 you won't find it much cheaper if you can find one at all, they don't come onto the used market all that often.  The C-7 is generally considered one of those legendary 'must have' Klipsch centers.

    I reached out to Ken (My Mom's SO) to see if he is down to get it on it as he is the one writing the checks for this. The listing is about 60 days old so hopefully its not sold and the ad accidentally left up. I will contact the guy as soon as I get confirmation from Ken. I was hoping to be able to get away with a phantom but even being off to one side by a foot or two breaks the stereo imaging and pulls the dialog over.

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    Integrated amps w/ tone controls and mono switch

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    13 minutes ago, kvndoom said:

    It's all good... I was being tongue-in-cheek anyway.  Home audio isn't one place you'd expect to see female body parts used to market products (granted that's an old ad).  Leave that in the realm of motorcycles, sports cars, and video games.

     

    But I'm way off topic at this point.  :)

    I think its a little tacky personally. At least they should have had a clever tag line like, "See if you can turn her on before she figures out how to turn it on..."

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