krustyoldsarge

If you can find airfare for 1000 won! Can certainly relate to the bang for the buck issue with the Black Gates, though.

Come on over to Korea and the beer's on me!

Looks like I lost my 1000 won (92 cents)! Besides the $$$, any particular reason you don't use the BG's? Just asking!

....is what I hope I won't be saying in the next few weeks! Just got notified by the big boss today that I'm being transferred to UiJongBu. "I don't really have a choice in this, do I?" "No, you don't!" Oh well, Taegu was nice while it lasted, the most beautiful women in Korea! Will be spending the next week trying to locate a "Klipsch-capable" apartment 10 miles away from the DMZ. I just don't have a real warm fuzzy feeling about Korean movers....

Mmmmmm....caps! I'll bet 1000 korean won that if Black Gate made a cap the value of that Sprague leviathan, NOSValves would mortgage his house to stick it in there! Bye-bye blue! Love the V-twin/old school look of this beast! Would look great on a custom chassis for my Dynas! One of audio's greatest contradictions seems to be that flea powered amps are built on elephant chassis'!

---------------- On 9/7/2004 11:51:12 PM Piranha wrote: I agree with John's philosophy. Older women rule when you're young. Younger women rule when you're old. ---------------- The other thing I've noticed about getting older is that the stuff I used to do/say to women that got me SLAPPED in my 20's/30's now get me: "Daddy, you're so bad (kiss)", "Daddy, you're so funny (kiss)" or "Daddy, you're so cute (kiss)"! It's a mystery to me because I never changed my MO.....

Thanks Al! After my original post, I did some more digging in the archives and saw your measurements on the Litz coils versus the foils. Was too late to save me from bidding for some foils on ebay, but with any luck I'll get outbid! Will follow your advice, there. Also want to try conditioning the new caps, per leok I believe. The ChorusII is a magnificent speaker, too bad klipsch took what seems to be a less than ideal solution for balancing the crossover voicing; slapping in a resistor. Can certainly understand your reluctance to tinker with a CII crossover. On the other hand, maybe the same approach was taken with the Forte. There might be enough of them out there that lessons learned on one could be applied to another. I've got an opportunity to scrounge some Aerovox PIO 6uf motor starter caps for the squawker but will probably pass on that, too. By bypassing with a 1uf, I'm guessing you're placing it before the first 2uf and after the second 2uf immediately before the (-) line to the tweeter.

I also picked up "Heist" cheap. Great flick! Hackman is the consummate professional. The "commentaries" on the French Connection DVD reveal that Hackman nearly didn't get the Popeye Doyle role and that he had difficulties with it afterward. Who can imagine that now!

This is tragic! Even the Koreans who run the "audio boutiques" in Seoul are friendlier than this! And I hate to give Koreans credit for anything!

---------------- On 9/7/2004 12:25:20 PM colterphoto1 wrote: Thanks for story Sarge. Reminds me of our Boy Scout Voyager (canoe) program code word. When a canoe capsized or got in trouble, you were supposed to yell "forty-four" instead of help as an indicator of Voyager in Trouble. Don't know why. I guess the fact that 44 has followed me around must be an Ozzy omen that maybe I'm doomed somehow. It has been a rocky journey and some of the young gals I've photographed have about teased me to heart attack. Better slow down I guess. M ---------------- Codewords are usually a military solution to avoid giving an adversary information. Doesn't always work so well, though. When I was stationed at Ramstein AB (Germany) in the Cold War 80's all of our walkie-talkie communications concerning aircraft maintenance and operations were "coded". Sometime around 1988 we were briefed that the German Kriminalpolizei had busted a Polish agent in a village adjacent to the airfield. His room had not only a radio transceiver tuned to our freq's but extensive personal information about individuals working the flightline, apparently all gleaned from our chatter! Later on there was a flap about a Czech woman who was discovered in the junior enlisted barracks. She had gotten on base surreptitiously and stayed on by moving around. When the investigators asked her how she did it, she pointed to various room doors and answered "I slept with that guy, then that guy. then that guy over there....." Nice/Strange thing about getting older is that when I do/say stuff to women that used to get me slapped, the response now is "You're so cute/funny/terrible!" Does this mean I never grew up?

Koreans don't like the number "4". It pronounces exactly as the root Chinese word for death. Therefore there are no fourth stories in Korean buildings, they all go from 3rd to 5th floor. The Koreans WILL however pawn off phone numbers, etc. with 4's in them on foreigners to the max. Had a phone number that ended in 4144 a few years ago and made the phone office change it because I was tired of raised eyebrows when I gave it out to young ladies.

---------------- On 9/7/2004 3:12:08 AM colterphoto1 wrote: make mine basic black please, to go with the new website. Everybody knows that good guys wear black. Besides, with the gold logo it'd look great at Purdue football games (sorry IndyKlipshFan). If'n I get a white shirt, it gets a food stain right away- don't know HOW that happens. ---------------- I'm partial to the pre-1975 "PWK" logo. Ditto the black! I won't have a white shirt a week before I've gotten a hot sauce stain on it!

Shouldn't that be "Pepe Le Pew" on the Eifel Tower?

I've spent the last couple of days trying to digest the numerous posts on the ChorusII crossover. Deferring to the crossover experiences and knowledge of leok, mike stehr, deang and alk, would humbly like to gather opinions on the subject before I go down this road. I want to upgrade my crossover components, but according to what I've read, the Chorus network defies upgrade! Upgrades from electrolytics to film caps or inductor upgrades change the driver voicing within the speaker. The board is tiny (and fragile). Nonetheless, some brave attempts have been made to tackle the beast! My questions for those who have attempted upgrading a ChorusII crossover are: 1. Has anyone been been able to completely upgrade the all the caps and inductors (save the autoformer) AND preserve the voicing/balance of the speaker! How? 2. Has anyone used goertz alpha-core inductors in Klipsch speakers with any success? Was the voicing thrown off? 3. Does anyone have a pair of ChorusII crossovers (maybe with a broken board) that they are willing to sell (would rob for parts) There are already endless threads on caps! I'm not sure I'm any smarter for having read them all, though! I've got some 2uf (1%!) polys on the way. Last year I did crossover mods to my KG4s, upgrading the caps and coils. The difference was remarkable (but not cheap) Will post pics later when I get back to home station. Of course, I finished this project just in time to buy the ChorusII's that I had been searching for last 7 years. So right now, the KGs just sit. I also screwed up by originally posting this to HT It never ends

Women come and go, but Klipsch is forever!

---------------- On 9/7/2004 8:37:53 AM losrobos wrote: Yes i do like it loud ,but I picked these up at a hockshop in '97 so I don't know how they were treated prior to that time.They,ve been run on some Audio Research separates and an older Denon integrated amp,but ran into too many problems with second hand stuff.The sound was infinitely better on either of these,but what I,m looking for is advice on separates to start with.It may take me awhile to finish ,but the music is all that matters.I,d even consider refurbished goods as long as they come from a reputable dealer ---------------- If you're mainly rocking at high volume, and can find one in good shape, I'd suggest 70's vintage Marantz SS receiver, maybe 2270 or above. Should be loads of bass!

I've spent the last couple of days trying to digest the numerous posts (especially from leok, mike stehr, deang and alk) concerning crossovers, in particular the ChorusII. I want to upgrade my crossover components, but according to what I've read, the Chorus network defies upgrade! Upgrades from electrolytics to film caps or inductor upgrades change the driver voicing within the speaker. The board is tiny (and fragile). Nonetheless, some brave attempts have been made to tackle the beast! My questions for those who have attempted upgrading a ChorusII crossover are: 1. Has anyone been been able to completely upgrade the all the caps and inductors (save the autoformer) AND preserve the voicing/balance of the speaker! How? 2. Has anyone used goertz alpha-core inductors in Klipsch speakers with any success? Was the voicing thrown off? 3. Does anyone have a pair of ChorusII crossovers (maybe with a broken board) that they are willing to sell (would rob for parts) There are already endless threads on caps! I'm not sure I'm any smarter for having read them all, though! I've got some 2uf (1%!) polys on the way. Last year I did crossover mods to my KG4s, upgrading the caps and coils. The difference was remarkable (but not cheap) Will post pics later when I get back to home station. Of course, I finished this project just in time to buy the ChorusII's that I had been searching for last 7 years. So right now, the KGs just sit. I also screwed up by posting this to HT It never ends

You're getting some good recommendations. BTW, receivers are tuners/pre-amps and amp in one package, ideal for a college student. If you don't find something to your liking/budget among the suggestions from the other guys, a Marantz receiver from the '70's might fill the bill for you until you upgrade. Something between a 2238 and a 2285 should match the Forte's nicely. If you are a party animal I wouldn't go below a 2245. Ebay always has lots of listings like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50591&item=5718724074&rd=1 Plenty of money left for beer! Be advised, though, you might never want to get rid of the Marantz, they grow on you!

Did I hear "cookies and beer"!!!!!

The Hershey's are back! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61378&item=5717912810&rd=1

I could be wrong about this, but Pi's bass box doesn't look like a folded or any sort of horn. Appears to be a bass reflex box firing into a corner. Interesting looking stuff, though... http://www.pispeakers.com/CornerHorn.htm

---------------- On 8/29/2004 12:11:11 AM DeanG wrote: The same thing we think about: How to finance our next upgrade without having to resort to armed robbery. ---------------- ...and keep the ex-wife out of the picture

I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat, filling in for a fellow who quit our outfit. Work's taking me 200 miles away from my system, up to the other side of Korea. 28 days now and at least 15 more to go.

---------------- On 9/1/2003 12:19:07 PM pappy wrote: the wife returned from a weekend yardsale with a pair of kg 4 speakers. they play but both need new 8' mid/woofers and new passives. in fact one pair of 8's has been replaced with what looks to be a n 8'klh or advent type woofer. can i get replacements through klipsch or some other outlet? are there any alternatives that might work as well or should i stay with the original replacement parts? crossover upgrade? thanks in advance. ---------------- I've also seen replacement KG4 parts on ebay fairly regularly. If there are indeed two identical working "replacement" woofers on one of the speakers, try splitting them up between the two speakers and check how it sounds. Some hunting on the web might reveal a suitable butyl surround repair kit for the passive radiator. Partsexpress's kits seem to be foam. Here's a possible replacement for the PR. Among other things, you'd want to be sure the mounting dimensions work. Don't have my KG4's in front of me, so I can't check 'em. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-496 I would suggest getting your KG's up, running and listen to them a while before considering a crossover upgrade. The parts are on a small board and putting in decent inductors is no small feat!

Very low WAF!