InnovaZero

Accually because car subwoofers are built to accomidate a car's small size, they do well in their environment. The waves in the trunk, and throughout the car will reinforce themselves. This is why with in lab tests, a good car sub will reach 15hz with ease, where as you bring into a HT-like area, and it has trouble with anything under 40hz. This also effects the incredible SPL gain they grab from the cabin that is the "Trunk" outside of their respective enclosure.

*Pats his Signature on its head* little babies woofers will each you alive!!!!

Try to find some Swan M-200's, you can find them for under $200. Awesome bookshelves, and will suit the 60hz crossover well. (They dig down to around 55hz)

ehhh, this was reported like almost two months ago, they are just now finally airing it however. Besides that however, his run was pretty damn amazing. Dude has WAAAYYY to much useless knowledge in that head of his.

you'd more then likely get an answer down in the promedia section (GMX).

CRT..bad lol? Say that to my 63" Hitachi UltraVision set, the picture on that is oh-so-sweet, and I've seen a lot of TV's. And thats not even mentioning HD programs on it.

---------------- On 11/26/2004 9:04:20 PM MD1032 wrote: I'm all for participating in this modding thing as long as it isn't too involved. Now, how could I safely completely seal the port? I wonder if it would sound good, seriously. ---------------- Well I did it once; it did sound a tad tighter. However (as expected) wasn't as efficent down low. To be honest, there just isn't enough power going into the 4.1 sub to overcome the lower efficency of the sealed design, just not powerful enough. But thats my opinion.

---------------- On 11/5/2004 9:14:40 PM bagga wrote: i just read this entire thread and i'm amazed!! it's very cool you people are modding your klipsch MM systems! i think i have some really usefull information to add too. regarding the dreaded "bOOmyness", i believe this is merely the fault of the extremely high cut-off or crossover in the sub! i'm just guestimating but i would say the crossover is around 250hz, or the low end of a guys voice!! that's waaaay high for a sub. after all, subs should only be playing the "sub" end of the sound right? try this out: play some music that has a pretty full range of frequency in it. rock, jazz, rap, drum n bass, whatever. when it's playing disconnect the satellites from the sub and listen, you can almost hear the entire song through the sub. this is what's causing the BOOMy, muddyness! since the sub is playing the midrange too, it can't concentrate on the tight, deep punch we are all looking for! get it?? so i think all we need to do is figure out how to change the crossover so that the cut off is either variable, which would be really nice, or just modify what ever is setting the current 250hz cutoff so that it is lower, around say 120 hz. i am 99% sure this will cure the bOOmyness we're up against. for an even easier example try to find a sub that does have a "variable crossover", and while there's music playing try adjusting the crossover as high as it goes. you will definitely notice that the music starts sound a LOT "muddier", less precise, and down right sloppier. as you turn the crossover down to around 100 - 70 hz, the sound get's nice and punchy, very clear, and sounds deep and tight! i'm going to look around on the great wide intarweb for information on sub crossovers, i'll post again when i find stuff! Happy Modding ~zeric~ ---------------- Err the Promedia series, have always had the lowest crossovers in Multimedia, they are 2-pole crossovers at 120hz 12/db octave.

That is true, just about any car subwoofer I know is built to reinforce it's bass frequencies..which is why it does so well in car down to the lowest of depths, but place in room, and there's nothing under 30hz. That's been proven many times in lab-tests. However, there is always exceptions.

The Promedia Ultra sub is very strong down to 31.5hz, from there it drops, but it has decent output thereafter to 28-29hz. Below that, its not going to do much, altohugh there is a tint of energy at 25hz, which is remarkable since no other MM sub is close to that..but its really not useable at all.

Ohh I agree completely. The sats thing is worth a try, however as we all know..you don't want to stuff it too much. However stuffing the sub, I doubt will do anything, and might add more heat to the amp. The biggest (and IMHO as far *** MM subs go) flaw with the 4.1 sub is that it was underported, the port is a tad too small, or if you want to look at it anoher way, not enough flare to the edge of the ports. Then again, increasing port size may have made it boomy, but who knows. However as we all know with the HT-like Ultra subwoofer, those slot ports go a long way compared to traditional rounded ports. I would like to see how the stuffing goes though, doesn't hurt to try.

Interesting, I'd love to see how this comes up. Couple things however, the sats thesmelves already have absorbing materal in them. Also the reason for it being sharp, two reasons: 1. At the time, computer users wern't used to decent tweeters, being near-field the horns made things more focused. Many previous Klipsch users, as well as people who have had experience with HT speakers, accually miss the old 4.1/2.1 sound. (Although the Ultra sats are smoother) 2. The subwoofer when placed prop. is far from boomy, infact its blending/tightness is damn good by MM standards. The problem however, which ask anyone who has been following the Promedias for years, is that placement with this thing is crazy challenging,a feat few often find. Thats not to say it doesn't sound good, however what people instead just stick too is the wall (SPL, little more punch) or in the open (Tightness, detail).

I really don't see any implication of her cover album. It just a reflection of her "darker" lyrics then in the past. We all make mistakes, its alright. I do fully agree with the rest of the covers you posted however.

---------------- On 9/30/2004 9:22:28 AM picky wrote: RIGHT ON, EAR!!! These "packages" suffer from what I like to refer to as CBFS: "Crotch and Booty Fixation Syndrome": http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/files/packaging.jpg" < Just one look at them.....and one can almost hear the music! .....Yeah, ....right. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/images/smilies/14.gif"> Looks more like a line-up at the local whorehouse...or, is that "Ho"-House? I'll take this "Super-Sized" Woman any day. She can sing octaves (4 of them!) above the others! http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/files/ann1.jpg" < (Ann Wilson of "HEART"): One, class act! ---------------- Agreed, accpet one problem, when in the hell was Avril Lavigne even remotly "****ty"??? Never sir...

Damn...3 RSW-15's. I can't imagine the sheer slam outta something like that. Ouch.

if you care about deep bass then yes, if your into rock music with massive bass drums, then the RSW-15 has slam in spades. I always said that a sunfire will shake your inwards like a pissed off earthquake, and an RSW will punch you through a wall.

The only Promedia sub that compares fav. to decent quality budget subs is the Ultra subwoofer, its frequency response/SPL is very similar to the RW-10. OF course, the RW-10 sounds better though. (Obviously)

If Im thinking about the popping your thinking of, then your amp could be sending far too much power. Its common in car audio 6x9's and such. (mainly the cheap ones). On hard bass drums or low bass, you'll hear a nasty mid-high pop sound. Its not bottoming out persay, but more inline with the amp going..oh ****...too much.

---------------- On 9/9/2004 10:09:22 PM wheelman wrote: Haven't seen it yet, but I heard the book is better than the movie on this one. ---------------- I haven't read the book, but I have seen the movie..and let me tell you... after you see what happens..the book will never show you pain or make you feel as such after watching the movie.

Believe it or not, the older bose stuff sounded better. They were still overpriced, but they did sound a good deal better then todays stuff. (while being even more over priced)

Well if you don't wanna wait for the 6600GT (Which is a real beast for $200, this card will do almost 45fps average at 1024x768 at 4xAA/8xAF in Doom 3) If your primary concern is doom 3 with a few others, while at the same time not willing to wait. Look inot the Radeon 9800 Pro or the Geforce FX 5900XT.

Here is a small review/overview of the same TV I bought last year: (Done by Consumer Guide) "The Hitachi 62SDX88B is a 62-inch HD-ready rear-projection TV housed in an all-black cabinet, and is part of Hitachi's all-new UltraVision SDX line. It is among the finest examples of the very best of the large-screen sets. It can display more than 1000 lines of resolution. The 62SDX models feature an HDTV-ready UltraFocus with SB lens system that uses a large gun with both red and green lens filters, coupled with an UltraBlack high contrast screen. A digital 3-D Y/C comb filter brings everything into focus along with artificial intelligence circuitry that stores picture perfect images. The set includes a flex converter that acts as a line doubler. Other video circuitry includes Advanced Velocity Scan Modulation, Dynamic Focus, and Ultra Focus lens and CRTs. For a 62-inch set, images were excellent at about a 10-foot viewing range, offering very little video noise. Pictures were bright and crisp with very little distortion. Scan lines are virtually non-existent thanks to progressive scan, which normally displays everything at 480p. To improve picture quality even more, Hitachi now includes a protective screen that both protects the screen from fingers and might further improve contrast. One of the most striking features found on the 60SDX88B set is something called Magic Focus, which is really true digital auto-convergence. In essence, the set will converge itself at the touch of a button. With virtually all projection TVs, you have to line up cross hairs for red, green, and blue, which can take some time. Now, it can be done automatically in about 90 seconds. Other features include dual-tuner advanced PIP with strobe and freeze. Audio is rated at 60 watts per channel across the front into a built-in dual tweeter/midrange/woofer setup. The set includes Dolby Pro Logic circuitry built-in along with a wireless sound delivery system for the rear speakers. The 62SDX88B features a 53-button illuminated universal remote that will control VCRs, cable boxes, and audio equipment. The are three rear and one front A/V inputs and one variable audio output. Front A/V jacks with S-video are also included for the easy attachment of a camcorder. There are also dual antenna inputs so that two antenna sources may be fed into the television. If you attach an HDTV set-top box to this set, you'll receive near-HD quality images reaching almost 1080i.

edit: For some reason, it double posted. My appologies.

It was kinda all over the place lol. Basically what I was saying that bose lovers would say nobody could have something so small and sound so good. So! We introduce to them the Promedia Ultras, Quintets, or the RF Cinema 6 system. Blam, they sounds way better and cost less too.

Well hopefully more opinons with a little more experience with their TV's will come along. But I can tell you that my Hitachi Ultravision is clear as crystal, bright and vivid with damn good detail.