Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 I have the Marantz DVD player connected to the HK 3490 via Analog RCA and Toslink cables. The DVD Player has both Dolby Digital and DTS logos on the front but when I play Nora Jones DVD, I can only get sound from Analog. The HK is a 2ch receiver so there is no Dolby Digital or DTS processing. It was my understanding that if I used Toslink that the DVD Player would do the processing and so the HK could play it through toslinc. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Is the DVD player sending a signal that the HK can't process? If the player is set to Bitstream audio change it to PCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 Not sure what the DVD player is set to since I don't have a TV hooked up to it. LOL I just thought of something, I know with the Eagles DVD, it gives you an option of 2ch or DTS in the menu. I'll check in the HT to see if Nora Jones has something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 doesn't matter what you have in the movie option. if the player is set to bitstream it is wanting the receiver to decode which it won't since its two channel. kind of bad thing about no display is even if it was set to cpm, you would want to pick the 2 channel track on it instead of dolbydigital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 Here is what the manual says Method 1 DVD Player + Stereo system • Method 2 DVD Player + Dolby Digital decoder or DTS decoder NOTES: • When using Dolby Digital or DTS decoder, set "DOLBY DIGITAL" or "DTS" to "ON" accordingly for audio output in the setup mode (Refer to page 24). Set it to "OFF" for the decoder that is not used currently. Playing a DVD using incorrect settings may generate noise distortion, and may also damage the speakers. • The audio source on a disc in Dolby Digital 5.1 channel surround format cannot be recorded as digital sound by an MD or DAT deck. • Set "DOLBY DIGITAL" or "DTS" to "OFF" for audio output in the setup mode for method 1 only. Playing a DVD using incorrect settings may generate noise distortion, and may also damage the speakers. (Refer to page 24.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 When I turn the DVD player on, the display says PCM 48 kHz but when the DVD begins to play, it changes to Non PCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) you should just buy a very small monitor to have so you can see…lol. you should also simplify it and unplug all digital cables and turn off all digital outputs and just run rca's. (method 1) Edited November 17, 2013 by Scrappydue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 I downloaded the Owners Manual on PDF and did a search for Bitstream and the manual doesn't mention it but I believe this is the setting I need to change. DOLBY DIGITAL (Default : ON)Set to ON when the player is connected to Dolby Digital decoder. ON: Output by Dolby Digital. OFF: Convert the Dolby Digital to PCM. DTS (Default : ON) ON: Output by DTS sound Set to ON when the unit is connected to DTS decoder. OFF: No DTS sound will be output. So should I set Dolby Digital to Off so it converts the DD to PCM? I'm assuming DTS should be set to On? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 you should just buy a very small monitor to have so you can see…lol. you should also simplify it and unplug all digital cables and turn off all digital outputs and just run rca's. (method 1) No desire to have monitor or TV in the living room at the present time. The reason I connected both digital and analog cables is the digital cable actually sounded better on certain disks that I tried when I originally setup the 2ch system. My guess is when it uses the Analog cables, the DAC in the Marantz is being used and when it uses the Toslinc, the DAC in the HK is being used. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 FYI, the Marantz "appears" to be a very nice unit but it only weighs 4.6 lbs so it feels like a very inexpensive unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 So if the Toslink sounds better because the HK DAC is being used, would changing the above settings in the DVD player allow me to only use the Toslink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Give it a shot. My 2 channel is only for cd's or airplay. I don't do dvd's as I have no display and you really avoid any confusion with a CD player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 17, 2013 That is true but I also enjoy listening to Nora Jones, Eagles DVD and a few others that I have on DVD and not CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I hear ya. I definitely don't have cd's for a lot of my favorite music. But that is when iTunes will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Michael, I was experimenting today with my Integra DPS-10.5(universal) player and my Integra DTM-40.4 network stereo receiver. I put in the concert DVD of Peter Gabriel's New Blood Live in London and tried it with both analog stereo RCA and digital coax RCA. I would only get sound from the analog RCA connection because the DPS-10.5 must down sample to Dolby Digital Stereo before the onboard stereo DAC's send the converted signal to the DTM-40.4. I do wish the DTM-40.4's DAC's could accept the down sampled Dolby Digital Stereo signal because the receiver's DAC's are better than the DAC's in the player. Bill Edited November 17, 2013 by willland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skonopa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 you should just buy a very small monitor to have so you can see…lol. you should also simplify it and unplug all digital cables and turn off all digital outputs and just run rca's. (method 1) No desire to have monitor or TV in the living room at the present time. The reason I connected both digital and analog cables is the digital cable actually sounded better on certain disks that I tried when I originally setup the 2ch system. My guess is when it uses the Analog cables, the DAC in the Marantz is being used and when it uses the Toslinc, the DAC in the HK is being used. Is that correct? I have a cheap little TV that I used to setup a DVD player in a two-channel rig I had setup in my basement. I think I paid about $150 for that thing. I had the TV hooked up long enough to get everything setup in the DVD player and after that, unplugged it and put it away in a closet down there. No need to keep it hooked up all the time, but handy to have when it is necessary to make adjustments to the settings. Turned out that little TV came in handy when my new plasma TV arrived with a crack in it. I still wanted to hook everything else up, so that little TV was useful in testing everything out. Once the replacement plasma TV arrived, I was able to just swap out the little TV and put it away. But yes on the second part. When hooked up via analog, the DVD player's DAC is doing the decoding/conversion, since the output is analog (thus the digital to analog conversion has to be done in the DVD before sending the analog signal out to the receiver). When hooked up via TOSLINK, the DAC in the receiver/pre-amp is doing the decoding/conversion, since the TOSLINK is a digital connection, thus the digital to analog conversion is then has to be done in the receiver. Of course, you can get an outboard DAC if you are interested in two-channel. You would plug the DVD player via TOSLINK to the DAC and then the DAC is plugged into the receiver via analog. May be worth considering as good ones are now available for pretty reasonable prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Is there is no way to force the player to code the single prior to sending it out via TOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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