Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) How About something like this? lets call this a picture 1 Or this? call this picture 2 Edited September 20, 2014 by Turbox 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The first pic looks really cool. Build it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 couldnt you put the 510 somewhere in the mouth of the 402, make a bracket to hold it out I have seen others mount a horn in a horn and claim it worked fine. as its a center channel I think it would work and it would look awesome with your first rendering above Food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) I've modified the one pic to look more balanced in the cabinet. Picture 3 Edited September 20, 2014 by Turbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Still like the first one better. It looks very clean and not cluttered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Here is another one without the 402, its essentially a KPT435 using a 510 and 703 horns. Picture 4 Edited September 20, 2014 by Turbox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Thats pretty nice. What would you do with the 3 402s you just got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sell them to you... ...Not sure yet. Actually, I have one other option, give me 5 minutes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 How about this one? I like it, but it will indeed sacrifice some of my screen size in height. Probably looking at least 36 inches tall... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wow what a speaker! Thats probably your best one sound wise? But I think I still like the very first one the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sell them to you... ...Not sure yet. Actually, I have one other option, give me 5 minutes.... Ha! Dont tempt me. Im weak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wow what a speaker! Thats probably your best one sound wise? But I think I still like the very first one the best. I think so yes, I am all about three ways... speakers that is. I was just thinking that with a Grill on it wont really matter what the speaker looks like, now im leaning towards picture 3. now I just need someone who knows boxes and ports to jump in...anyone I currently have it set up as outlined in one of my first pics in the post, it truly sounds awesome with the 402 there, now I cant give it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I didnt even think of the grill. Good point. Jason str might be able to help. https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/user/28570-jason-str/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah I think I saw that he build the 904 grills. I was also just thinking that regardless of how big the box is, I can still make the internal volume match the 904, and voila, there it is...by the way, when you order 402's they get delivered in a 53 foot trailer with a lift gate, on skids...bad azz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think he does DIY speakers and subs also. So he might be able to help with the numbers you would need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 In case your wondering how big a 402 is, here is a great comparison La Scala K402 Comparison.jpg Wow, I had no idea the 402 was that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) How about this one? I like it, but it will indeed sacrifice some of my screen size in height. Probably looking at least 36 inches tall... I like this most. What about having the two horns overlap a bit? The 402 angled up toward the listener would make it back a little at the top, and the 510 horn bottom in front of the 402. It seems like you would only have interference in the uppermost vertical axis of the 402, and little distortion in the LP. I still like the idea of two LaScala bass bins over a custom ported. You know what you will get that way, plus it is horn loaded like your jubes. Besides, you have an LS bin and a spare 84 so all you would have to do is cut the top off your spare. Edited September 20, 2014 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yes, that is likely my favorite, but even those extra few inches make a difference in my screen size. Overlapping is an good idea, just not sure how easy it would be to build or implement that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Yes, that is likely my favorite, but even those extra few inches make a difference in my screen size. Overlapping is an good idea, just not sure how easy it would be to build or implement that. If I had a 402 and a 510, I would stack them on the floor angled and everything just like I drew. Seeing it like that will help you figure out the best way to make a cabinet to house them. I saw where you gave me feedback on the jukebox, thank you. Well, that's how I did it. I sat the speaker in the thing, and slept on it. The next morning, I knew exactly what to do. Seeing them actually stacked will definitely help you decide. I know triangles don't stack naturally, for those of you who want to point that out to me. It can be done, and should be done with great care, and lots of ingenuity. Edited September 20, 2014 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 20, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Just be careful if you overlap any edges, especially with the 402, Roy always talked about the "bubble" exiting the horn , wouldn't want to change that. I would just set your max height and design with that, you wanted your perfect center so don't get in the way of the screen at all. I like drawing #1 also but if it is really important to you to go 3 way #2. Really any of them would probably sound great. Besides just loving the 402 I remember listening to it compared to the 510. Surprisingly (TO ME) the 510 sounded close to the 402 when setting on axis, the big difference was how wide the 402 still sounds great at. The 402 covers a much wider area which in a wide or big room should make a lot of difference as a center channel, with as much info that is directed to the center channel. I say this because when this comparison was done I was setting along a side wall about half was into the room and heard a huge difference, when I got up and moved closer to the center the difference was much less noticeable, so I tried it a couple of times, it's how I got that opinion. Great project, it had to be done sooner or later. Edited September 20, 2014 by dtel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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