Wolfbane Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Consider the original source - see: http://globalnews.ca/news/2271086/iraqi-air-force-claims-hit-on-is-leader-al-baghdadi-defence-ministry-probing-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalcomfort Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 They couldn't hit a nail with a hammer!! They have the aircraft but beyond flying them, it is like a kid trying to figure out how to play a video game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 They couldn't hit a nail with a hammer!! They have the aircraft but beyond flying them, it is like a kid trying to figure out how to play a video game. I agree with Paul Bremer's comment that they 'couldn't organize a one-car parade'. Maybe they got lucky or had a Russian in the cockpit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Maybe they got lucky or had a Russian in the cockpit. Wow, that may be an astute observation on your part! It also tells me you are a student of history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaman Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If we would only spend another $50 M per to train more Anti Assad soldiers we could have laid claim to taking him out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If we would only spend another $50 M per to train more Anti Assad soldiers I know we're not supposed to sneak politics into these proceedings, but I thought I was the only who read that and became infuriated by our government spending a half-billion on yet another foreign policy failure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Maybe they got lucky or had a Russian in the cockpit. Wow, that may be an astute observation on your part! It also tells me you are a student of history. Never under estimate the capability of the Russian fighting man (i.e. grunt: cannon fodder, pilot: he's flying on a wing and a prayer special). Especially if you are ever foolish enough to invade Mother Russia. Napoleon and some crazed German guy both made that fatal mistake in the last 200 years. Charles the XII before them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Death from above... bugstompers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Maybe they got lucky or had a Russian in the cockpit. Wow, that may be an astute observation on your part! It also tells me you are a student of history. Never under estimate the capability of the Russian fighting man (i.e. grunt: cannon fodder, pilot: he's flying on a wing and a prayer special). Especially if you are ever foolish enough to invade Mother Russia. Napoleon and some crazed German guy both made that fatal mistake in the last 200 years. Charles the XII before them as well. It's tough to invade Russia because it's just so big. The defenders keep retreating until the invaders' supply lines are so long that their forces can barely manage to feed and fuel themselves, then the Russians attack. As well, people fighting for their homeland in their homeland are very highly motivated. The British first, and much later the Russians, discovered that when they were in Afghanistan. Even trying to retreat and get the hell out was very costly for both of those armies. Edited October 11, 2015 by Islander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 It's tough to invade Russia because it's just so big. The defenders keep retreating until the invaders' supply lines are so long that their forces can barely manage to feed and fuel themselves, then the Russians attack. As well, people fighting for their homeland in their homeland are very highly motivated. The British first, and much later the Russians, discovered that when they were in Afghanistan. Even trying to retreat and get the hell out was very costly for both of those armies. Napoleon was the greatest Western military brain since Alexander and yet he too let his ego put his chestnuts in the fire in both Russia and Spain. He rolled into Russia with more than 500,000 men and crawled out, mere months later with a few thousand. He reportedly once said: 'When you set out to take Vienna... you take Vienna!' He found out that Moscow was not Vienna and Russia was not Austria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) If we would only spend another $50 M per to train more Anti Assad soldiers I know we're not supposed to sneak politics into these proceedings, but I thought I was the only who read that and became infuriated by our government spending a half-billion on yet another foreign policy failure. They're are no white knights in the Hell on earth known as Syria today but given the choice of supporting the side of lessor evil, Putin, at least, chose the more ethical and pragmatic side. Edited October 12, 2015 by Wolfbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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