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  1. wvu80

    Covid19 redux

    Just because a person is smart in something doesn't mean he's stupid in everything else. I believe in scientific consensus as it is obvious even all the smart guys don't agree with everything. At some point you have to trust someone.
  2. The bigger the better. The RP-600C and RP-600M will make an outstanding L/C/R, much better then the 500 series, which will make good surround speakers. I own the 600M. I love the sound. Center is an Usher MTM with 7" woofers.
  3. If a Klipsch speaker like my RP-600M's are rated for 100 watts per channel, they don't "use" that much power, that is how much power they can handle before distortion kicks in. I am being very general here because Klipsch engineers say that whatever they are rated for they can usually handle double that. So if I am listening to my 100 watt speakers on my 100 watt AVR at conversational levels they might be drawing 10 watts. If I turn it up REALLY loud to 80 db they might be drawing 30 watts continuous. The AVR keeps a reserve so the music can have dynamics. Still the speakers can handle it. Your speakers and mine might draw as much wattage as a light bulb, not much power at all.
  4. wvu80

    Covid19 redux

    Local update: I was out at the local Kroger grocery store this morning, in Ohio. Nobody wore gloves but for the first time in my experience I bet 90% wore masks. They were everywhere. That's a big change from a couple of months ago where maybe 10% wore masks.
  5. I like my center channel to have drivers in that 6 to 7 centimeter range. I think voices sound best that way. The RP-600C looks like the best choice of the ones you listed. In terms of the watts, the speakers do not really care about exactly matching those numbers. Any modern AVR with 80 wpc ore more will do a good job.
  6. The spreadsheet says Belles in Good condition average $1916. You can't go wrong at $950. If they're real. Only two pictures of one speaker and one is a s/n. Do your due diligence. I would be wanting a pic of the other s/n, and more pictures of the enclosure of both speakers.
  7. There aren't any and the K-63 itself is un-obtanium. I haven't seen one for sale in years. There are still a couple of alternatives. An excellent replacement is the Electrovoice EV DH1506. You can find these on the used market from time-to-time. They are screw-in but are much heavier than the K-63 and some mods are needed inside the enclosure. They are easy to do, it just takes a little time. These are usually about $150 pair shipped. Note: I just checked Ebay and it seems I am out of touch with prices. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=dh+1506&_sacat=0 B&C makes an excellent sounding CD that sounds like the K-63. You can buy these new from PE. You will need the adaptor plate, since this is a bolt-on type and you need a screw-on type. https://www.parts-express.com/bc-de250-8-1-polyimide-horn-driver-8-ohm-2-3-bolt--294-605 https://www.parts-express.com/eminence-s2b-a-aluminum-1-3-8-18-tpi-screw-on-to-2-3-bolt-horn-adapter--290-561 Here, some dummy (me) compared them. It looks like all my pictures in that article have been deleted. Note: The Denovo DNA-360 referred to in the article is a re-badged B&C DE250. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/1527228-seos-12-vs-klipsch-horn-i-did-bad-thing.html
  8. My only point is that there are three basic kinds of glue we commonly use on wood enclosures: white glue, yellow glue and polyurethane. In sealing an enclosure like the CF-4, any of these will work. The only advantage I've seen to the poly glue is if you are going for an air-tight seal,t hen the expanding properties can be of some use. But I assure you if you use each of the other wood glues, they will flow into any fissures and seal it just as tight. My preference is for the yellow glue like Titebond II because it is the most viscous of yellow/white and gives me more time to work with my project if I screw up. Hah! Not "if", but "when." 🤣
  9. The Titebond II (yellow) will work fine and gives you more time to line things up. I use it in all my DIY speaker projects and I used it with my CF-4. The two basic wood glues are white (inside) and yellow (inside/outside). FYI ALL the glues mentioned are stronger than the wood to which they are bonding. You guys are talking about the expensive Polyurethane Gorilla Glue, the brown expanding type. $20 for an 18 oz bottle. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Gorilla-Original-18-fl-oz-Polyurethane-Brown-Multipurpose-Adhesive/1101533
  10. I know it takes some time, but please take the time to read the entire thread. The answers you seek are in there. To get access to the back, remove the drivers from the front. You will find six screws holding the front motorboard on. Pop off the plugs and use a long Phillips head screwdriver to get in there. The screws are long but they'll come right out. The pic on the right shows the extra brace I put in. It has larger blocks than the OEM braces.
  11. I'm not a crossover guy but when I saw the orientation of your inductors I wondered if they are proper, based on this chart:
  12. Thanks, Jim. Maybe I stumbled into something in which I should have kept my mouth shut. My apologies if I was out of line.
  13. How marvelously coincidental.......If you'd like to flame directly, please, be my guest. Maybe I missed something Jim but I didn't attribute ANY of this thread to be directed at anyone in particular, much less you personally. I took it as a rhetorical discussion in general. +++ I've been a flipper in the past by definition, meaning buy low sell high, but I've never bought a speaker just to flip it. My re-sales have been WAF directed and I've taken the profits from one Klipsch sale to buy other Klipsch speakers. That was never my intention, that's just how it turned out.
  14. I did miss that and @triceratops nailed it. ONLY the v3 CF-3 or CF-4 came with black and red wires coming off the crossover. You don't even need to check port sizes, color of the mid-horn or s/n. Black and red wires, version 3 from 1996.
  15. You didn't, at least for me. It's part of my interest in this hobby to see what Klipsch prices are doing around the country. Besides, what else do we have to do? 😷
  16. OH. OK. Seen this happen before. I am done with this whole thread. NM. You should have snagged those $500 F2's when they were only $800! 🤣
  17. Pretty good analysis, IMO. My Heritage Prices spreadsheet shows F2's in Good condition at $556, 34 data points. The last five were 300 - 700 - 475 - 1000 - 600. Of particular interest is the $300 set which is a confirmed price, FB Market Place. The other interesting sale was $1000, also a confirmed price on Facebook, Marketplace Klipsch Owners, Feb 2020. This set was described as "Mint" and was in original boxes. Klipsch Heritage used prices ver 2020-05.xlsx
  18. Neither the Klipsch nor the SVS subs support XLR. Both support high level input and low level RCA input. I would not use two different subs btw, I would disconnect the SVS 10" and keep the Klipsch 15". By using two different brands of subs I suspect you are getting some cancellation and/or smearing of the LF sound. I'm not worried about the sub connection, but the connection from the Marantz pre-pro to the amplifier. Can you clarify if it's XLR or RCA, maybe take a picture? It's not a huge deal but I'd like to see you get the best performance out of what you have. There are some problems with the XO points of the RP-504C center. You say Audyssey set it to 40 Hz but it only goes down to 58 Hz. It should have been set to 60 or 70 Hz. Likewise the RP-402S. Audyssey should not have set it to 40 Hz, it only goes to 62 Hz. It should have been set to 70 or 80 Hz. What crossover on the speaker do you have the RP-500A set to? It's a physical switch, located near the keyhole. I have to admit, I'm not sure which setting is correct for you. You might want to consult the manual. If you use the Atmos setting that might be for bouncing the sound off the ceiling.
  19. Just some limited research, and seeing some prices through this forum No data tracking @dwilawyer was referring to me. I track Heritage prices in a spreadsheet. I'll attach my spreadsheet at the end of this post. This particular speaker is a bit of an enigma. In this case we have a Cornwall II decorator from 1972. According to the Klipsch website the Cornwall II was first introduced in 1985. Here is the history of the Cornwall, with the Cornwall II being so named in 1959. Two different models with the same name. https://www.klipsch.com/cornwall-history?autocompletequery=cornwall I agree the finish of the speaker is Avg/poor. They appear to be refinished in black probably by spray paint and I see some delamination. If we go by the older numbers from the Cornwall I the Average sales price for Avg/poor condition is $636. Being a decorator model I don't think they came with grills. I would value these at the lower end of the range. If any of the drivers don't work I would deduct $100 for each driver. If the crossovers have not been updated I would deduct another $100. From https://critesspeakers.com/prices-crossover_repair_kit.html This is a tough one to value but for speakers almost a half-century old I would say $500 is fair to both Buyer and Seller. The Heritage Prices spreadsheet is attached, free to download. It's a good research tool. Klipsch Heritage used prices ver 2020-05.xlsx
  20. @angelluisg I have a few dumb questions regarding setup, so please bear with me because I don't want to make assumptions. Have you run Audyssey? If not, I think you should. You have a very powerful version. Do you have your 7705 connected to the amp via RCA cables, or XLR? I recommend XLR. It looks like you have a full Atmos setup. Have you experimented with some of the other formats available, such as Neural-X? Via the 7705, are your Atmos speakers set up as OVERHEAD speakers, or ELEVATION speakers? Are the Atmos speakers physically configured to match? I believe the 500SA has a switchable XO, not sure about the 140A.
  21. Take what I say with a grain of salt, I am more of a minimalist with a 5.1 living room setup. I think your room and your setup is fantastic! You've surrounded your listening position with quality speakers everywhere. You have a strong amp and a great pre-pro that will make all those speakers play nice together. That is such a luxury to have that much dedicated space, IMO. There are always things one can do to fiddle with the sound, but you've got to be 95% there. Enjoy!
  22. Agree. I see an area rug in your future @angelluisg, as well as heavy pleated drapes for that large window. The drapes don't have to be expensive, some soundproof/light blocking long drapes would really help. I am not recommending these, it's just an example. They also have these at Walmart. https://www.wish.com/product/5cdcc5d984861a5f954590f2?from_ad=goog_shopping&_display_country_code=US&_force_currency_code=USD&pid=googleadwords_int&c={campaignId}&ad_cid=5cdcc5d984861a5f954590f2&ad_cc=US&ad_curr=USD&ad_price=50.99&hide_login_modal=true&share=web I see how your have your Atmos speakers mounted and I am NOT the authority on Atmos. I'd like to hear a comment from an Atmos guy on the placement front and rear.
  23. Much Obliged Dave --please send him my condolences -- Will do.
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  25. wvu80

    Covid19 redux

    Agreed, my friend. It's almost impossible to have this Covid19 discussion without some mention of political figures and their behavior. In my opinion, on this forum, it's OK to say "I saw the president's press conference this afternoon, and I disagree on points X,Y and Z. It is NOT OK on this forum to say "Trump is a liar." I'm interested in and value, Dean, your point of view on various subjects related to the pandemic. I have NO INTEREST in you name calling the president in the same vein that I don't think you would enjoy a forum member singing the president's praises. Neither needs to be a part of this discussion in this forum so mods will allow it to continue. A more dispassionate expression of views will likely win the day.
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