derrickdj1 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Hawking is on a roll -- really? is that some sick wheelchair joke? Maybe this should be featured in Motor Trends Wheels of The Week..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 OTOH, getting power from black holes orbitting the earth may be a moot point for a couple generations. The reserves of natural gas just keep growing, and the price is falling like a rock. Reserves are now over 7T ft3. And growing. And of course, there is still oodles of oil, and even larger oodles of coal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 There is just to many unknowns for harvesting energy to a black hole. The earth has been here for eons and can remain find if man control his consumption and population. The word living in harmony has escaped our intellect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I just saw where two LIGO arrays have probably detected gravity waves from, "A merger of two black holes". http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravitational-waves-discovered-from-colliding-black-holes1/ Seems to prove Einstein's theory of general relativity. Somebody's going to get a Nobel prize for this. This is the coolest shit ever. Some other good pieces from one of my favorite cosmology authors HERE and HERE Thanks for those links. This discovery is really huge because this increases what we know about gravity 10 fold. This will be the basis for future gravitational research for many years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 you found some purpose and some application for the study or not? None whatsoever. Like all of us just trying to figure myself out. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 you found some purpose and some application for the study or not? None whatsoever. Like all of us just trying to figure myself out. Dave Precisely. It passes the time of day in an interesting, but largely useless, way. I didn't know this thread was going to devolve into science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sad, innit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) I doubt Hawking is able to beat his own, but at the same time this is the guy who is warning us how AI will destroy all humans who now speaks of creating black holes for power close to the earth. I wonder if the hole is to be built by our AI robots? Exactly! The man might be very intelligent, but these soothsayer-like predictions are fun to ponder over but not of a whole lot of use. Then science is of no use? So far, you have discounted the use of introspective philosophy and science. I guess science starts with a guess, too. However, one should be careful not to decorate a guess too colorfully and allow it to become "science." It's still a guess. To guess is the most rudimentary step into the scientific method. I believe it's called a "hypothesis." Call it "hypothesis" if you will, but it's just a guess, and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Edited February 11, 2016 by Jeff Matthews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sad, innit? More than you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sad, innit? More than you know. Up yours. I know more than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sad, innit? More than you know. Up yours. I know more than you think. "sadder than you know" - generates that response? Well, funny. Sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Nobody could test for the existence of atoms for 2 millennia. I would hold there is NOTHING than cannot be tested. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Well, don't over do it. You might end up blind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sad, innit? More than you know. Up yours. I know more than you think. "sadder than you know" - generates that response? Well, funny. Sort of. Always striving for at least sort of. But yeah, sadder than you know how much sadness I can perceive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Nobody could test for the existence of atoms for 2 millennia. I would hold there is NOTHING than cannot be tested. Dave Why is testing the heart of the matter? I find it almost unbelievable that people don't find any application in their life for believing in some cosmological theory or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Yeah, that was Einstein, endlessly beating his meat until he died of it. I should not be astonished, and yet I am. Edited February 11, 2016 by jo56steph74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I find it almost unbelievable that people don't find any application in their life for believing in some cosmological theory or another. Open to thoughts. What would be such an application? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Nobody could test for the existence of atoms for 2 millennia. I would hold there is NOTHING than cannot be tested. Dave Why is testing the heart of the matter? I find it almost unbelievable that people don't find any application in their life for believing in some cosmological theory or another. Because they actually do. Relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 I find it almost unbelievable that people don't find any application in their life for believing in some cosmological theory or another. Open to thoughts. What would be such an application? Dave My suggestion would be to inquire with Catholics, Jews, Hindi, Shintos, Buddhists, Humanists, or Protestants you may run into in daily life and see if any of them have a use for understanding the universe. You'd have a better chance of a deeper discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 My suggestion would be to inquire with Catholics, Jews, Hindi, Shintos, Buddhists, Humanists, or Protestants you may run into in daily life and see if any of them have a use for understanding the universe. No more or less than anyone else, best I can tell. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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