Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Because it's illegal here, anyone who wants fireworks goes to a neighboring state to buy the good ones. Because of that, we miss out on money staying local and, maybe, some money coming in from other states. It's going to be the same loss of opportunity and revenue when it comes to the medical and recreational use of a weed. Kentucky will miss out on being first to market in this area. Will your state be late to the party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 In my state (OR), recreational use (and purchase from dispensaries) is already legal for flower, edibles and extracts. Huge money not only in taxes, but also the industry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 9, 2016 Moderators Share Posted November 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Weber said: Because it's illegal here, anyone who wants fireworks goes to a neighboring state to buy the good ones. Because of that, we miss out on money staying local and, maybe, some money coming in from other states. It's going to be the same loss of opportunity and revenue when it comes to the medical and recreational use of a weed. Kentucky will miss out on being first to market in this area. Will your state be late to the party? I would think there is a different dynamic going on in Kentucky. The Bourbon makers may be heavily opposed to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 There is far more to this issue than just revenue and taxes. I am not advocating one way or the other (on this subject, in public), but there is significant oppostion from conservatives, older folks, the alcohol industry and others. I find it somewhat similar to the gambling industry moving into state by state, slowly but surely making inroads. It's an interesting phenomenon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, jimjimbo said: There is far more to this issue than just revenue and taxes. I am not advocating one way or the other (on this subject, in public), but there is significant oppostion from conservatives, older folks, the alcohol industry and others. I find it somewhat similar to the gambling industry moving into state by state, slowly but surely making inroads. It's an interesting phenomenon. Don't forget Big Pharma... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, dwilawyer said: The Bourbon makers may be heavily opposed to it The horse industry didn't like other gamboling coming in either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 9, 2016 Moderators Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Weber said: The horse industry didn't like other gamboling coming in either. That is what prompted me to think there might be something going on differently there than other places. I remember they wanted to slice a very narrow exception for para-mutual betting. It will be interesting to see what Arkansas does on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 It might also be interesting to see when it will be removed from Schedule 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 On 11/8/2016 at 9:17 PM, jimjimbo said: I am not advocating one way or the other I am and I don't partake. The legal system makes money off of ones like me, who don't buy / use it. I have nothing against it except that all of the police, jails, courts are all staffed, upkeep, insurances, etc are paid by tax payers like me....not the user or seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Can you explain your statements....."the legal system makes money off of ones like me, who don't buy/use it?" How is that? And everything else is paid by taxpayers like me.....not the user or seller? I don't follow. The users and sellers are the ones who pay the taxes, and contribute to the revenue, yes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 My tax dollars are being used to enforce prohibition. It hasn't worked, it's not going to work. One day, years later, Ky lawmakers are going to bust into the joint doing the Miley Cyrus twerking dance like they're heroes. Helium balloons will be on the floor the band will be gone and even the fat chick will be spoken for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: The users and sellers are the ones who pay the taxes, and contribute to the revenue, yes? If it's legal, yes. Until then, who pays for all the law enforcement and housing of these 'criminals'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Ok, I'm comin' around to understanding your line of thought.... This thread could almost be as much fun as the Cubs......well, maybe not.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 32 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: That is what prompted me to think there might be something going on differently there than other places. I agree. It's that a lot of drinkers don't smoke and a lot of smokers don't drink. They have a false sense of angst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: This thread could almost be as much fun as the Cubs......well, maybe not.... Spread too thin, I stayed out of there. It's not fun when it comes to what all i could afford if the gooberment didn't use my money to create problems so that they look like they are saving us from ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Weber said: Because it's illegal here, anyone who wants fireworks goes to a neighboring state to buy the good ones. Because of that, we miss out on money staying local and, maybe, some money coming in from other states. It's going to be the same loss of opportunity and revenue when it comes to the medical and recreational use of a weed. Kentucky will miss out on being first to market in this area. Will your state be late to the party? Canada is going to make it openly available for recreational use next year for persons 24 years and over. IMHO: Cannabis should not be legalized for recreational use. It should be decriminalized for simple possession (i.e. not a felony) and legally available for medical use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, Wolfbane said: Cannabis should not be legalized for recreational use Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Weber said: Why? Quite simply idiots who consume it to get high and: drive, operate machinery, smoke it in the presence of young children with developing brains or provide it to children. Homo sapien brains continue to develop to ~24 YOA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, Wolfbane said: Homo sapien brains continue to develop to ~24 YOA. Go, Canada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 57 minutes ago, Weber said: If it's legal, yes. Until then, who pays for all the law enforcement and housing of these 'criminals'? Best argument for decriminalization, if not legality. Don't forget the taxes..! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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