derrickdj1 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Well, the weather is warm and I thought I would replace the lone sealed sub with the Marty Cube. I plan to get this thing done on the quick since the weather is on my side. Even though I will gain a little output, this is more a lateral move since I have enough extension and output with out the sealed sub. The tune for this should be around 21 or 22 Hz and with an HS shelf, it will drop down to 17 Hz. I am using Gorilla glue from the other DIY thread going, lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Downsizing Derrick? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 No down sizing. Just swapping the lone sealed sub for a vented one. This is a small sub at just under 6 cu. ft for an end table sub. I will pretty much have the same fire power or a tad more in the 17 - 30 Hz area. If I don't tear the sealed box up getting the driver out, I will have two sub boxes to give away this spring. Throw a driver in and you will be good to go! I hate to trash them. The other is a dual box for 18 in. drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, derrickdj1 said: No down sizing. Just swapping the lone sealed sub for a vented one. This is a small sub at just under 6 cu. ft for an end table sub. I will pretty much have the same fire power or a tad more in the 17 - 30 Hz area. If I don't tear the sealed box up getting the driver out, I will have two sub boxes to give away this spring. Throw a driver in and you will be good to go! I hate to trash them. The other is a dual box for 18 in. drivers. Would those work with the 18s from the KP-600 stacks. I believe they are K-47s Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 14 hours ago, ZEUS121996 said: Would those work with the 18s from the KP-600 stacks. I believe they are K-47s Mark I wouldn't think they would have near enough excursion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Got the baffles cut and placed in the box. Tomorrow the speaker binding post, drill the driver holes and glue the top on. I will finish this build all on one page of the thread, lol. The real monster may come this summer. A dual ported box LLT that can get down to 10-11 Hz. The bad part is if I do one, the rule is to do them in pairs, lol. I family has a tenancy to get me Home depot gift card like I want them. Just get me a gift card that I can use anywhere, like a good restaurant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACV92 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Did you use the misting technique that minermark mentioned with the Gorilla glue? Was it that hard to work with as some had said? Just curious, as I'm ordering my flat pack on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 No misting, just squirt and keep a rag around to wipe your hands and any drip. I've alwys just glue and go. This is my 10 build so, I am no expert but, they are for my HT/2ch rig. Attention to bracing is a key point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACV92 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Guess I'll give it a shot. Good deal with the weather. Luckily, I've got a spare bedroom in the basement to build it. Otherwise, I'd be waiting another month or two for it to get warm enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 I using 3/4 MDF for this one since it is small. MDF makes for a very solid box. Now the saw dust is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACV92 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I've thought about getting some plastic sheeting, hanging it from the ceiling of my garage, and encapsulating the work area to help with the dust. Haven't tried it yet. But yeah, MDF dust is nice and fine and covers everything. Have you been happy with the iNUKE's? I just posted a question in my thread because I'm bouncing back and forth between the 3000 DSP and the Crown XLS 1502. Amazon has the Crown for $309 vs $399. I like some of the features of the Crown vs the iNUKE. I just need to make a decision.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 I like the I Nuke DSP amps. I have 7. They match perfect with the SI and UM 18 driver and no need for a Mini DSP since they have all the DSP needed to dial the subs in. My first passive sub amp was a Crown. It was decent and no complaints. A fellow forum member suggested the taking the Crown back and getting the I Nukes with the DSP. Some people like the old heavy amps but, over the past 4+ years, these have been rock solid and plenty of power. Some people don't like the amber lights, silver color or fan noise with some of the earlier amp. I had 15+ forum members over last Oct. and nobody even mentioned the fans. They are not as loud as the projector fan which is not loud . The I Nukes are a favorite for the AVS DIY guys because they are a good bang for the buck and get the job done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 love a new build.....sad that goldie sub number 1 is gone. 6cft seems so small for u! if goldies box is available i would gladly accept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 I had a hell of a time getting the driver out so, the box is no longer available, lol. I took the hammer to it, he, he. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtrp Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Hi Derrick. I am getting the itch to upgrayyed to 4 full martys from my sealed. Changing my room layout and calibrating everything again has been well worth it, but I am itching for MOAR output. Would you say you double your output simply by going ported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 A ported sub will have an average of around 10 db. more output in the 15-30 Hz area over it's sealed counterpart. Is it noticeable, it's like adding 3 or 4 more sealed subs. For music, I have used my ported subs even though I had sealed in the same room. I can't hear a difference and my system is 90% used for music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 hours ago, ACV92 said: I just posted a question in my thread because I'm bouncing back and forth between the 3000 DSP and the Crown XLS 1502. Amazon has the Crown for $309 vs $399. "...vs $399," Do you mean $399 for the Inuke 3000 w/dsp? If so, that number is too high. The 3000 w/dsp is $300 and the 6000 w/dsp is $400. Those are round numbers, you can usually do better if you shop around. http://www.parts-express.com/Search.aspx?keyword=inuke&sitesearch=true A used 3000 w/dsp is around $200+shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 I just looked up the Crown, 525 wt/ch into 4 ohms. Plenty for a horn subs I guess. I didn't see anything else striking about it over the I Nuke DSP amps. Both Class D, DSP and light weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACV92 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Yeah, I've been researching more and I'm going to stick with the 3000 DSP. wvu80 the price for the Crown XLS 1502 was $309 on Amazon vs $399 at PE and elsewhere. Amazon also has the 3000 DSP for $251.99, free shipping. I'm only going to be running one UMAX 15 for now. So, at 4 Ohm bridged the 3000 DSP will be plenty. I was looking at the REW software as well. They recommend this mic: https://www.amazon.com/miniDSP-UMIK-1-Measurement-Calibrated-Microphone/dp/B00N4Q25R8/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1487474513&sr=1-1&keywords=miniDSP+UMIK-1+USB+Measurement+Calibrated+Microphone Is this a decent mic? derrickdj1 - What are you going to finish the enclosure with? Keep the pics coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, ACV92 said: Yeah, I've been researching more and I'm going to stick with the 3000 DSP. wvu80 the price for the Crown XLS 1502 was $309 on Amazon vs $399 at PE and elsewhere. Amazon also has the 3000 DSP for $251.99, free shipping. I'm only going to be running one UMAX 15 for now. So, at 4 Ohm bridged the 3000 DSP will be plenty. I was looking at the REW software as well. They recommend this mic: https://www.amazon.com/miniDSP-UMIK-1-Measurement-Calibrated-Microphone/dp/B00N4Q25R8/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1487474513&sr=1-1&keywords=miniDSP+UMIK-1+USB+Measurement+Calibrated+Microphone Is this a decent mic? derrickdj1 - What are you going to finish the enclosure with? Keep the pics coming. A lot of people use that mic and it should be OK. I don't know if you need a special computer card for that, might want to check on AVS or maybe some of the guys here use it. I use Omnimic which is around $300 but, it is quick and you can be up and running in a matter of minutes. There is a lot to REW far as a learning curve. Jerry Austin listed a how to on the AVS forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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