justin_tx_16 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 What would you get? They are equally priced on eBay auctions. I have never heard a KG-4 to my knowlege. These NS-6's are ok... but not going to last through college unfortunately. I still have ears you know LoL. p.s., sorry for so many posts lately, i don't know what has come over me, but I just feel like asking questions again. I feel like I am 16 again hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 You might like the KG4s better if you are using them without a subwoofer. They go considerably lower than Heresys. And they might fit better in your dorm room. Otherwise IMHO Heresys sound much better. You feel like 16 again? I've been stuck at 14 for nearly 40 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Malcom, is that an EV woofer in the cornwall? Kinda looks like an early woofer, but then again, there designers arent they? Jim Justin, yea go with the KG-4s, only if the rubber surrounds arent cracked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted October 22, 2002 Author Share Posted October 22, 2002 Oh yeah, to power it I have a Pioneer VSX-D511 http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/Images/HomeProduct2002/VSX-D511-K_big.jpg Power Stereo: 100 Watts x 2 Surround: 100 Watts x 5 Digital Decoding and Processing DTS 5.1 Surround Decoding Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Decoding Dolby Pro-Logic II Music and Movie Surround Decoding 96kHz/24-Bit Digital to Analog Conversion 5 Advanced Surround Modes Expanded 5.1 5-Channel Stereo Music Movie Virtual Surround Back Midnight Mode Connectivity DVD-Audio Ready 5.1 Channel Inputs Pre-Amplifier Out (Subwoofer) 2 Digital Inputs (1 optical/1coaxial) Inputs - 3 Audio/3 Audio/Video CD CDR/TAPE TUNER DVD/LD TV/SAT VCR/DVR Outputs - 1 Audio/1 Audio Video/1 Video CDR/TAPE Out VCR/DVR Out Monitor Out S-Video (3 Input/2 Output) DVD/LD Input TV/SAT Input VCR/DVR Input VCR/DVR Output Monitor Output Convenience Front Panel Quick Set-Up w/ Jog Control 30 Preset AM/FM Digital Tuner AM/FM Station Name Input Auto Signal Select Semi-Dot Matrix Display Simple Remote Warranty 1 Year Parts and Labor Warranty Dimensions Width: 16-9/16" Height: 6-4/16" Depth: 15-6/16" Yeah, so will this work with a heresy? will this work with a KG-4? i have 30 days from today to decide if I want to keep it. So far it is great, really can pick up those radio stations! I do plan to get a sub some day, no too soon cause i am not going to use any of my saved up money for this, this is just from my paycheck, extra money basically. let me know! BTW, I got the D511 for $189, not too shabby! MSRP is $300 and this is brand new, the D411 I was going to get for $129 did not have S-Video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikjohn Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Jim I gotta step in and disagree here. Although the heresy's do not go as low they are more speaker than the KG-4, not that I don't like the KG-4 because they are a very good speaker with a decent bottom end they just dont have the heritage horns. Justin, I cant remeber if you have any Heritage or not but once you go Heritage you will never go back. Try the Heresey's they will you will like plus they are more durable and can be refinished alot easier especially if you can find the unfinished birch. Next thing you know youll be sport'n a set of khorns. EJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 The KG-4s are an awesome speaker...Reasonably sized with incredible bass. They sold me on Klipsch speakers in the mid 80s..and I'm still hooked. Like I have always said...I am not an audiophile, an expert or any type of audio "know it all".... I know what I like...and that is enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Where talking a dorm here, SO i would get the heresys as well, only not in a dorm! Clueless those do sound fantastic dont they, ive owned some a while back! The heresys would realy travel, the horns. It would be harder to listen to the heresys, than the 2 way KGs! I think hed get complaints on the heresys, if i were in a dorm, i would just get KG 2s, for that use! Ive heard a lot of people owning KG 4s in college dorms! If justin had the heresys, he might also be the college audiophile, and the girls would prabably hang in the dorm with him, effecting his work LOL! If you get the heresys, if they dont work out in college, pick up a 2 way, and keep the heresys, youll be another step ahead! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted October 22, 2002 Author Share Posted October 22, 2002 Well, the Heresy's are smaller than the KG-4's and I just LOVE the sound they have. I fell in love with them, thinking they were something else at school one day, and they were on a SS amp, probably not a very nice one at that and they still sounded glorious, maybe because it was a recording of my trumpet solo and it was glorius to begin with LoL. But, do you think that a pair of say 1974 dark walnut heresy's would sound ok with the pioneer D511 I got? i like it thus far, quite a bit really. the dts sounds terrific. i am going to try some 24/96 on it tommorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Get the heresys buddy, either way you caint go wrong, i think that setup will be fine! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Jim, Yes, that is an EV woofer. It is in a mid 60s Heresy H700. Justin, Your Pioneer gear should work just fine with Heresys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikjohn Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Good points Jim, if I had the choice I would get the heresey's regardless of what I use them for just because they sound so great. Regardless of what happens to them or if things need replacing in the end you still have a set of heritage that you wouldn't have had otherwise. EJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Is no one considering the source material? Both the steady state amplification and that "noise" that pervades college campuses? The Heresies are absolutely wonderful listening to music using tubes. Do any of you have any experience listening to the serious heavy metal or rap or some of the more esoteric crap on college radio. This stuff on Heresies can kill you particularly with SS equipment. The KG-4's are far more forgiving and can handle a far greater variety of 'noise' than the Heresies can. You are forewarned Jason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Justin My vote is for Heresy. I still have the pair I bought when I was 18. Survived all the collage parties and still sound great. JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted October 24, 2002 Author Share Posted October 24, 2002 ---------------- On 10/24/2002 7:11:01 AM crash827 wrote: You are forewarned Jason. ---------------- Who's Jason? Mixed signals here... I am going for heresy's, always wanted heritage. will this amp/receiver work? 96/24, DTS, DD, PLII, 100x5 @8ohm with a digital tuner (does a wonderful job too). Solid State of course, and it is a Pioneer, the D511. If it wont work, let me know asap cause i only have like 25 days left in the return policy. thanks! if not this, what else for no more than $250? If nothing for less than or equal to, hopefully not more than $200 (year right... i just need two channel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Jason, Justin, What's the difference? Either way, you're still in need of therapy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikjohn Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikjohn Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Crash, That logic makes ablsolutely no sense when when spending a decent amount of money on speakers that you are going to want to keep. EJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikjohn Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Justin, Do yoe have a preamp? Fabfrank has those Audio source monoblocks @$90 ea. Plus you could use them for something after college. I got 2 from him, Brand new recons but still decent price. Just a thought. EJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted October 25, 2002 Author Share Posted October 25, 2002 No, I don't have preamp. Those sure sound like nice amps though. Going to go through college... think they woudl last? my amp "overloaded" today, i was at 16 playing the radio for about 5 seconds, it goes "overload" and turns off. volume was not so high that i could not hear my phone ring. i turn it back on to hear it clipping at the same level... which is not really loud and there was no distortion. using 40watt yamaha speakers, so they were not drawing too much power from the 100 watt per channel amp. so i guess i will get rid of the amp/receiver. clipping at moderate volumes is NOT going to work for me. oh well, about $200 richer i suppose, but now ampless. that really ticks me off... i guess though that with more efficient speakers like the heresy's, this would not be so much of a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted October 25, 2002 Author Share Posted October 25, 2002 should i return it? i am about to leave right now to do that.... i hate to do it but i will only find it cheaper as the model gets older i guess, and now it is making a high pitch ring... yeah, it is out of here. crap, that makes me angry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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