slovell Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Anybody using these tweeters with the KLF-20? My KLF's have Crites titanium diaphragms in the K-79-K's presently. I also have the Klipsch titanium mids and Crites crossovers with the bandpass addition for the mid. Would I have to modify the crossovers to use the DaveA LMAHL tweeters? Will the LMAHL's blend well with the titanium mids? I've never been completely satisfied with the tweeter response from the KLF-20 even with the titanium diaphragms. They sound a bit shrill, brittle, and recessed to my old ears. Would the LMAHL's be an improvement or just a sideways move over what I have now? Thanks, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I don't have them in KLF-20's but I do have them in two pairs of KLF-30's. I really like them better than the original drivers with titanium diaphragms. They're much more detailed and smoother. The originals sounded dull and lifeless in comparison believe it or not. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Thanks. I've never liked the tweeters in my 20's. Even with titanium diaphragms I can barely hear them and they sound shrill and gritty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Go for it. Dave's a good guy. Give them a little time to break in and I think you'll be happy with them.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 I'm going to order a pair tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 It's done, I went for it and ordered them a few minutes ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Congrats. Keep us posted with your impressions. [emoji106]Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I'm reasonably sure you'll love em. I'm quite picky and I can tell you, they have my SOLID stamp of approval after using them in a few different pairs of speakers. The higher sensitivity, increased detail and smoothness is an awesome combo IMO... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 My only concern is whether they'll blend well with my mids. I've got the oem , can't remember the part #, Klipsch titanium diaphragms in the mids. I talked to Bob about the crossovers before I bought the mids and he advised me to let him build a bandpass add on for the new crossovers to compensate for the titanium mids. He told me these were the first crossovers for KLF-20's that he had built with the bandpass. I'm confident that they'll be OK because if anybody knows Klipsch it's Bob Crites. As I mentioned earlier I've never been satisfied with the tweeters and I've always believed that they are overwhelmed by the mids and are the biggest weakness in the 20's. The 20's to my ears sound better and smoother with movies than they do with music. Cymbals sound very recessed and gritty on two channel music so hopefully Dave's units will rectify this. That's just my personal opinion and I'm looking forward to hearing the LMAHL's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, slovell said: My only concern is whether they'll blend well with my mids. I've got the oem , can't remember the part #, Klipsch titanium diaphragms in the mids. I talked to Bob about the crossovers before I bought the mids and he advised me to let him build a bandpass add on for the new crossovers to compensate for the titanium mids. He told me these were the first crossovers for KLF-20's that he had built with the bandpass. I'm confident that they'll be OK because if anybody knows Klipsch it's Bob Crites. As I mentioned earlier I've never been satisfied with the tweeters and I've always believed that they are overwhelmed by the mids and are the biggest weakness in the 20's. The 20's to my ears sound better and smoother with movies than they do with music. Cymbals sound very recessed and gritty on two channel music so hopefully Dave's units will rectify this. That's just my personal opinion and I'm looking forward to hearing the LMAHL's. Just get the MAHL's man. You can't go wrong with those. Got them myself. First pair, actually, since I did the curves on them. Go without hesitation! You will appreciate the results to the second power. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Got them in and they sound very good indeed. To my ears they're clearer and sweeter than the titaniums, cymbals are much better with more ring and presence. The LMAHL's so far seem to blend a bit better with the titanium mids. Money well spent IMHO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, slovell said: Got them in and they sound very good indeed. To my ears they're clearer and sweeter than the titraniums, cymbals are much better with more ring and presence. The MAHL's so far seem to blend a bit better with the titanium mids. Money well spent IMHO. Missed this thread earlier... I have had the Large MAKL and am using them with the MCM1900. I have enjoyed them from the start. Great detail and the craftsmanship is top-shelf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovell Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 When I put the LMAHL's in my KLF-20's I was in the middle of doing some mods on my Jolida JD9a. I was soldering in some Obbligato caps and changing out four of the BB OPA627ap op amps for LT1028's leaving two BB's in the output position. When I finished everything I put Donald Fagen's Nightfly on the Scout and had a "Holy Crap This Sounds Good" moment. Haven't had one of those in a while. The music just jumped out at me. More detail, better mids, tighter bass, I could finally really hear cymbals that actually sounded like cymbals. I ordered two more Obbligatos for the Jolida JD5T preamp that should be here next week. Can't wait to hear what that 's going to add to the mix. I've got GE 5751 JAN triple micas in the JD9 and I've got another pair of them I'm thinking about putting in the JD5T, while it's apart, in place of the Psvane 12ax7's that are in there now. Really impressed with the overall quality of the LMAHL's , I wasn't expecting such a really nice change. It's not often you actually get what you pay for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Yeah, I just make a slight cut at 12k and it's perfect. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 For my melon....Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 My tweets don't like the Psvane's......but I'll tell ya what they DO like.....is some juicy NOS 1957 Mullard long plate 12AX7's. Oh yeah....Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 6:03 PM, slovell said: When I put the LMAHL's in my KLF-20's I was in the middle of doing some mods on my Jolida JD9a. I was soldering in some Obbligato caps and changing out four of the BB OPA627ap op amps for LT1028's leaving two BB's in the output position. When I finished everything I put Donald Fagen's Nightfly on the Scout and had a "Holy Crap This Sounds Good" moment. Haven't had one of those in a while. The music just jumped out at me. More detail, better mids, tighter bass, I could finally really hear cymbals that actually sounded like cymbals. I ordered two more Obbligatos for the Jolida JD5T preamp that should be here next week. Can't wait to hear what that 's going to add to the mix. I've got GE 5751 JAN triple micas in the JD9 and I've got another pair of them I'm thinking about putting in the JD5T, while it's apart, in place of the Psvane 12ax7's that are in there now. Really impressed with the overall quality of the LMAHL's , I wasn't expecting such a really nice change. It's not often you actually get what you pay for. Did you install Lpads when you installed the LMHAHLs or was it not too bright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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