Colin Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 If there is so much current or power available from mega-watt SS amplifiers even flea-powered tube amplifiers, then why can we hold both ends of the loudspeaker cable at the same time without feeling anything? What is the name of this law or principle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Kliplomatic Immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 it's called voltage yo...there isn't enough electric potential for the current to travel through your body. however, once the electricity finds a path that the electric potential is strong enough to push it through, then the available current will flow. i believe the voltage coming out of most amps is somewhere between 3 and 15 volts (though i have no idea for sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 you got it. about licking teh cables though, if you lick a Cat5 cable in say your office network... you will get quite a shock. also, anyone ever put that creame/gel on the ends of their connectors? i am going to check it out today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 ---------------- On 3/21/2003 1:59:28 PM justin_tx_16 wrote: you got it. about licking teh cables though, if you lick a Cat5 cable in say your office network... you will get quite a shock. also, anyone ever put that creame/gel on the ends of their connectors? i am going to check it out today. ---------------- I'm trying out that CAT5 thing, I will test in on my cat - I wouldn't hurt sweet Wimpy (thats his name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I thought it was amperage that made it dangerous. Remember, a watt is equal to 2.83v AC and I never push more than 2.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 it's watts (aka the current) that kills you. Know when you get those cool static electric shocks? there's like 12,000 volts in that sucker...a hundred times the volts put out in your wall outlet! however, a wall outlet has a huge amount of current running through it, and that's what kills you. all the voltage does is allow the current to flow through the path, once the path is established, the current flows hardcore. in a static shock, there is very littly current and thus no real damage occurs. with the wall outlet, there is practically an infinite source of current, which means lots of damage. i wish i was more motivated to come up with some cool drawings and diagrams...it's really easy to demonstrate this using waterpipes. i really love the core concepts of electricity, it's amazing how much stuff depends on it and in so little time. as far as the cat5 goes...that sounds interesting. what's the risk of damage to the computer equipment it's hooked up to? kenrat mentioned testing it on his cat, i wonder how my dog would respond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 ---------------- On 3/21/2003 1:59:28 PM justin_tx_16 wrote: you got it. about licking teh cables though, if you lick a Cat5 cable in say your office network... you will get quite a shock. also, anyone ever put that creame/gel on the ends of their connectors? i am going to check it out today. ---------------- I agree that it would be shocking to find someone in the office where Annette works, licking 5 cats! Did someone spill tuna on them? It's fine to use creame/gel on the end of your connector (all over is nice, too), but you should lock the door, so no one barges in. fini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 the cream/gel i was referring to is not the kind Fini bathes in You can get it at Wal-Mart, it is supposed to make an airtight connection and keep a more solid connection to prevent scratchyness and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 LOL! as for the gel...it wouldn't have much use unless you are constantly reconnecting your cables, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 no, the gel is actually for when you have things connected for extended periods of time... like connecting your coaxial F type connector to your HDTV tuner or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 So you want me to test those wires? Test this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 ---------------- On 3/22/2003 1:58:50 PM BBB wrote: So you want me to test those wires? Test this! ---------------- Welcome to 1998, j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Only 1998? I knew I should have put that cat through the Stargate first. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 You could hold both ends of a speaker cable, and it would not hurt you as the voltage and amperage are relatively low. Your body has a very high resistance when it comes to conducting electricity, however you can get shocks from quite a few common items. I have gotten a shock from a leaking spark plug wire on a d.i.s. equipped vehicle, and let me tell you 50,000 volts, even at a low voltage is something you won't soon forget. My arm hurt for 2 days afterward, as I smacked my arm/hand on the hood hard as I recoiled from the offending wire that ( bit ) me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Have you ever tried putting a 9-volt battery on your tongue ? Because your tongue is wet with saliva, it conducts electricity well, and you subsequently get a shock. If you then place two dry fingers on the terminals of the battery, you will find that you will not get a shock as there is high resistance ( impedance ) to the flow of current and the voltage ( pressure ) is not high enough. I do NOT recommend putting the speaker leads on your tongue and cranking your amplifier up to see how much of a shock you will get. Hey, wait, maybe I have discovered a cheap electroshock therapy device ! Now all I need is a Krell amp, and some cheap zip cord...... any takers ? Dr. Hurd's electrocution, I mean electroshock therapy ..... Just bring your favorite music. LOL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Never mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtDark Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 A way to think about the relationship between voltage and current using water pipes (like DrWho mentioned) is to say that voltage is a measure of the water pressure between two points in the pipe ( (in circuits it's between any 2 components, like your speaker (resistor) and your receiver (EMF ??) ), the current is the measure of the actual water flow through the pipes. Without the pressure (voltage), there is no potential (another term for voltage) for water to flow (current). A little off the subject, but is it really bad to bind bare speaker cables at your receiver and speakers as opposed to using real connectors ?? Sorry if this is a really newb question. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Colin P, Dear Colin Po Well,just take a Krell FPB600 at full output and stick your tongue on the positive and negative terminator. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZAP RIP Just make sure your tongue presents a 2 Ohms load LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minn_male42 Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 a cool trick is to take a 9v battery and a step up transformer....hold the 9v leads on the low input side and have a friend touch the output leads... big shock....not very long...but they will jump for sure!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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