kenratboy Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 OK, I am very anal about my hearing. I have lots of good speakers to buy, and thousands of hours of music and movies to enjoy up until I die. Because of this, I am very protective of my hearing (and vision) - my dad and I were cutting some chain, and bolt cutters were not working, so he got our 4" Maktia die grinder to do the job. I made it clear it was loud as hell and I didn't want to roast my ears on a sh1tty piece of chain. He said don't be a wuss and do it. I did, and my ears are ringing - but not bad. Am I being a baby, or should I tell him to let me decide how to treat my ears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygmn Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 get ya some ear protection and wear it when ya need to.....or leave area when he is doing this type of thing..... I know lots of deaf steel workers....hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speaker Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Ken youre being very sensible. That old macho loud noise thing is for generations past. Lots of WWII soldiers developed hearing problems. Some 60s rock musicians develop hearing problems. Would you stare at the sun and damage your eyes? Ears get damaged by loud noises. We live longer nowadays and the more you can protect your ears now the more they will be there for you in the future. In construction Im always exposed to loud machinery and keep a dB meter in my truck to be sure of what Im exposed to. I wear hearing protection much of the day. My father was also in construction but didnt always wear protection and now has some loss. OSHA and the Department of labor have standards for duration of safe exposure to noise. TABLE G-16 - PERMISSIBLE NOISE EXPOSURES (1) ______________________________________________________________ / Duration per day, hours / Sound level dBA slow response ____________________________/_________________________________ / 8.........................../ 90 6.........................../ 92 4.........................../ 95 3.........................../ 97 2.........................../ 100 1 1/2 ....................../ 102 1.........................../ 105 1/2 ......................../ 110 1/4 or less................/ 115 http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/noisehearingconservation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuclearay Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Ken I'm with you man... Growing up in FLA I learned to respect a good pair of sunglasses when going outside. My eyes feel the difference at the end of the day. Same principle goes for the ears. It didn't take much for my ears to start ringing when listening to $h*t music on $h*t stereos... so I don't do it anymore. I was that dork walking around at concerts with the earplugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuclearay Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Next time stick your fingers in your ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 ---------------- On 4/21/2004 4:55:05 PM nuclearay wrote: Next time stick your fingers in your ears. ---------------- I was holding the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I'm with the conservative end of this. Meaning that you should conserve your hearing. Anytime you think your ears are being overloaded, nature is certainly telling you something. Let me first say that comparison to females is totally off base. When I was in college I got into a situation where I was cutting though a brick wall with a Sawsall without hearing protection and got a teriffic headache. No hearing protect was even contemplated, then. I might have lost some hair cells in the inner ear. Professionally, in later years, I've been involved, on the legal end, of thousands industrial mishaps, long term and short term. In most there is a thread that some guy thought he was being macho, tough, getting the job done, being one of the good hard guys, can't be bothered with overprotective regulations, hero for the family, a bean counter's friend, and brave and thrifty. . . you get the picture. Like it or not . . . everyone has so many cells in the body; they have a finite lifetime and replacements; and don't stand up to short term or long term insults. They are no match for machines. No one pays you up front for the small risk and losses. There are loses on the back side. In many cases, some guy thinks, I can put my hand close to moving machinery and I'll be careful. Or it is short term risk. They go into short term risk with regularity. It catched up with them though. Few rational people these days would suggest any job can't be accomplished for the same price in time and money WITH safety standards observed. Next time, put on some hearing protection. OSHA at home. I use napkin spit balls in my ears at rock concerts. The music sounds better. I put my fingers in my ears when the fire trucks go by. The better to hear music. Best, Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Rat Boy, The ringing in your ears is unfortunately a sign that some damage was done. Prolonged exposure to the noise will give you a hearing loss. Ear protection is cheap (foam plugs). Your desire to protect your hearing is a good thing. When I was very young, we went shooting without ear protection. Older shooters usually have some hearing loss. Older musicians frequently suffer hearing loss. The hearing loss is usually avoidable with a little effort. The effort will not make you a wuss, but it does mean that you have more sense than most people. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 When we go shooting, we always use ear protection. I know short, sharp sounds are worse that semi-loud, constant sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Running a little burr-grinder long enough to cut a chain ain't gonna hurt your ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Robin Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Protect your ears. even if just for a few minutes or all day long protect your hearing. I have hearing loss and i have always worn the foam ear plugs, the good ones not the cheap ones. And now working around Jet planes the noise can be even worse. It`s not the sound of the engines running it is the sound of the air rushing into the engine. we just had our annual test last month; and there are several guys that have a lot more damage than i do. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easylistener Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 That little bit won't heart nothing. Now if you were using that thing for a couple of hours striaght then you will need hearing protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speaker Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Here are some guidelines: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/noise/faq/faq.html#tooloud Q: How can I tell if a noise situation is too loud? A: There are two rules: First, if you have to raise your voice to talk to someone who is an arm's length away, then the noise is likely to be hazardous. Second, if your ears are ringing or sounds seem dull or flat after leaving a noisy place, then you probably were exposed to hazardous noise. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/noisehearingconservation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancestorm Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 ---------------- On 4/22/2004 6:51:18 PM Frank Speaker wrote: Here are some guidelines: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/noise/faq/faq.html#tooloud Q: How can I tell if a noise situation is too loud? A: There are two rules: First, if you have to raise your voice to talk to someone who is an arm's length away, then the noise is likely to be hazardous. Second, if your ears are ringing or sounds seem dull or flat after leaving a noisy place, then you probably were exposed to hazardous noise. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/noisehearingconservation/ ---------------- Dang, now I'm gonna have to turn the Klipsch's down ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 my S.O.'s dad worked in industry and was in the 'hearing protection is for wuss's'camp(or they just didn't know)(like MANY older men of his time). he can barely hear,and is in his 60's... NO THANK YOU!! i know the majority of hearing loss i have suffered has been concerts and loud music.i don't think it is bad,but my ears have 'rung' enough times that i know i must have some loss. avman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltie dave Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 My dad was a doctor who had to retire 10 years early due to hearing loss. The only thing worse than not being able to hear your Klipsch speakers is not being able to hear your grandkids - Dad couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfz28 Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Kenratboy you are on the right track about hearing protection and should be as well as everyone else. I wear my foam ear plugs 8 hours a day at work while driving a 70 ton rock haul truck and when I am grading roads with a road grader.After 24 years of this even with ear plugs I have some hearing loss, we have too take a yearly hearing test at work every year. I could just imagine what my hearing would be like now if I hadnt worn ear protection at all.Anytime your ears ring after being around noise they are being stressed and are telling you something.Hearing cant be fixed. After years of noise exposure and bad permanate damadge has happend a persons ears will always ring 24 hours a day 365 days a year. I know one die hard out at work that never wore hear plugs because he said he didnt need them, well he cant here a dang thing and he says the ringing in his ears drive him nuts, he says going to bed at night and trying to sleep is even a problem with the ringing in his ears. So when in doubt and working around noise put those ear plugs in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiEGO10 -aRG- Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Could be harmful to wear ear-protection almost all the time you are doing nothing..? Like reading something... or whatever? Or it's preferable just to wear that in case you are exposing your ears to too much noise? Thanks guys! DiEGO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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