toussi1 Posted September 17, 2001 Share Posted September 17, 2001 I have the KSW-12: According to the specs it's suppose to go down to 26HZ... I don't know if that is an honest enough, because i have run a sound generator from 20-80HZ and this sub has most bass produced at 45-65 HZ : sure you do get 20HZ bass out of the unit; but its just PORT NOISE. - Is there anything to do to this sub to make it hit deeper? Loudness is not an issue, since its located in a 10X9 room with two SF-2's and a Yamaha RX-V800 ------------------ http://www.autodirectsave.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-man Posted September 18, 2001 Share Posted September 18, 2001 There is an upgrade available. Sell your Sub, and get an SVS. For $399 you can get one that is flat to 25 hz. ------------------ KG 5.5 (mains) KG 2.2v (center) KLF-C7 (center in storage) KG 1 (rears) KSW-12 (sub) Denon AVR 681/1601 Toshiba SD-3109 DVD Kenwood LVD700 LD Sony CD changer Sony 27" Trinitron Sony PLX I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Delaflor Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 quote: Originally posted by toussi1: ... because i have run a sound generator from 20-80HZ and this sub has most bass produced at 45-65 HZ : sure you do get 20HZ bass out of the unit; but its just PORT NOISE. What else did you used to test the output? can you post your complete results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toussi1 Posted September 25, 2001 Author Share Posted September 25, 2001 I don't have results, just my ears. i am going to stuff the box (some) acousta stuf from partexpress.com...i'll keep ypu posted if it does anything. ------------------ http://www.autodirectsave.com This message has been edited by toussi1 on 09-25-2001 at 05:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 Placement can result in increased bass especially when placed in corners. Put the sub in your listening position and walk around the room to find where the bass is the greatest - place the sub there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 After you stuff the sub you should go a bit deeper,not by much. If what you want is deep deep bass then the Velodyne HGS18 may be the only "logical" answer! This answer goes around 2500USD! LOL This is my answer for a sub's sub TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toussi1 Posted September 25, 2001 Author Share Posted September 25, 2001 Acutally, if i wanted DEEP bass, i would go with an EarthQuake Magma 15" subwoofer (25mm Xmax 500RMS) in a SonoTube 8+ cubic feet enclousure + a Port Tuned at like 20 HZ. Also, a 250 RMS Amp from Partsexpress.com I think that would give some breathtaking results. I would estamite it would cost something around $600 - But i don't have the cash Nor the space for a gigantic Tube. ------------------ http://www.autodirectsave.com This message has been edited by toussi1 on 09-25-2001 at 10:29 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted September 30, 2001 Share Posted September 30, 2001 The BIG Velodyne HGS-18 will give you deeper bass and big output.The HGS-18 can dig as low as 15Hz with ease! WHO CAN BEAT THIS? Velodyne HGS15 and 18 are true sub sub-woofer,a sub for a subwoofer! LOL TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APPLEBITE Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 Guys, the question was how he could make his CURRENT sub go deeper, not which multi thousand dollar sub could go the deepest. Of course anytime Earwax posts it's usually about all the snazzy **** he's got, and hardly ever about the topic at hand. If you want the KSW-12 to go deeper, there arn't too many options. Polyfill might do it, but I highly doubt it would make a difference. If you really wanted to, you could make another box for the sub and amp, and design the box and port to make it go deeper?? That would be a lot of hassle though. ------------------ JVC 36" tv Technics DA-10 Reciever Klipsch KSW-10 sub Klipsch RC-3 II Center Klipsch RB-3 Surounds Nuance Fronts Hitachi DV-P415U dvd player This message has been edited by APPLEBITE on 01-31-2002 at 12:53 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch-daddy Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 t-man, Yes you can get a svs for 369.00 but this is for the enclosure and sub "only".. Add about 200-250 for a amp and you have exceeded 600+. The most logical thing to do is try different placements, and if there is no big difference, well there is only 1 other choice, sell it. ------------------ Home Theater: Yamaha RX-V1000 Klipsch RF-3's Klipsch KSC-C1(LOOKING FOR A RC-3 OR RC-3II) Kenwood KSV64 Bipolar Speakers Klipsch Subwoofer KSW-12 Television: TOSHIBA THEATER VIEW 50" DVD Player SONY S-360 CD Changer CDC 585 5 Disc Yamaha Philips Pronto ts-1000 monster cable interconnects/12 gauge speaker wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 I used a EQ to get the low bass, but while it was nice to know that I had it, I ended up with a higher setting to get more mid-bass punch, otherwise I am looking at getting a 4' sonotube to try ... ------------------ Colin's Music System Cornwall 1s & Klipsch subs; lights out & tubes glowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 APPLEBITE I think you may have polyfill for brains. Taking the driver and amp from the unit and placing it in a long tube a la SVS or HSU is a major mod.It would not be a KSW12 anymore.What a genius you are.I did not know this could make the bass deeper. DUH Just get a inexpensive SVS CS or SC Plus and you dont have to do any mods to get great deep bass.Better drivers and large cabinets with a solid Samson amp will bring true sub bass home. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 How to make a Subwoofer go deeper? Tie more rocks to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 "Tie more rocks to it." AppleSauce would do doubt try this TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APPLEBITE Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 my suggestion for a new box was just that, A SUGGESTION. Yes it would make the sub go deeper, if you tune it to do so, and would cost ALOT less than going for an SVS etc etc etc. I didn't see anywhere in the original post saying that they wanted to buy a new sub/amp combo, so I was going with what was stated. Every post from you seems to be about "just get an SVS, Krell, Dynaudio etc etc etc, to solve your audio problems". Don't assume poeple have the money for that stuff, and if they do, who's saying that they want to drop the cash for that stuff?? Take a post for the imformation that's in it. Don't look at it for the flame that you think it hold's. ------------------ JVC 36" tv Technics DA-10 Reciever Klipsch KSW-10 sub Klipsch RC-3 II Center Klipsch RB-3 Surounds Nuance Fronts Hitachi DV-P415U dvd player This message has been edited by APPLEBITE on 01-31-2002 at 01:02 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 do you have it placed in a corner? if not, put it there, try different distances from the wall. hope this HELPS-that is a big part of what this bb is about,isn't it? avman. ------------------ 1-pair klf 30's c-7 center ksps-6 surrounds RSW-15 on the way!! sony strda-777ES receiver upgraded to v.2.02 including virtual matrix 6.1 sony playstation 2 sony dvpnc 650-v 5-disc dvd/cd/SACD changer dishnetwork model 7200 dishplayer satellite receiver/digital bitstream recorder sony kv36xbr450 high-definition 4:3 tv sharp xv-z1u lcd projector w/84" 4:3 sharp screen Bello'international Italian-made a/v furniture panamax max dbs+5 surge protector/power conditioner monster cable and nxg interconnects/12 gua.speaker wire KLIPSCH-So Good It Hz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMIGATHEBEST Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 any SVS sub will give you kick *** bass and if you want a sub that can go reaaaaaaaaaaaaaalyyyyyyyyy low for not to much $ get the 16-46PC. its flat to like 20HZ and SVS says it can go doiwn to 10HZ (WOW). or if you want REALLY powerful bass get the svs ultra. two svs ultras will be more powerful than the velodyne HGS-18. ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 its flat to like 20HZ and SVS says it can go doiwn to 10HZ (WOW).16Hz. Get two, they're small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Toussi---With a vented box one would expect most of the sound near f3 to come from the vent, that's the nature of vented boxes. Stuffing the box will most certainly screwup the system and performance will suffer. Vented box design is very exact based on TS specs, volume of box and vent volume, that and the chosen alingment. Change any one thing and it all goes to Hell. As has been said corner placement will give lower bass, also EQ might though one must be careful EQing vented boxes below f3 lest the cone, unloaded at frequencies below f3, go into overexcursion causing distortion and possible damage. You were advised to try a different box: it's possible the driver might go lower in a larger box, to find out you need the TS specs of the woofer and an enclosure design program (well you can work the math on a calculator), several programs are available free online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamie Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 Sometimes the most obvious answer escapes us, yes? Replace the driver. You stiil have a well engineered box, and a decent amp. ------------------ Tis better to know more than they think you do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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