Jay481985 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 negatives are pretty durable, more so than the picture. And given the choice ruined photo or ruined negative I would take the first. And with the acetic acid, I forgot that was for B&W. acetic acid is also vinegar. BTW that is a lovely picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 ygmn. My mom lived a block off the beach in Long Beach Mississippi. The wind didn't do her in, the Levees didn't break and do a number on her property. A 30 foot storm surge came and just pushed her home completely away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I'm sorry for your family's loss Carol. I can't even imagine what you've been going through over the past few months. My sister is the crafty one in our family and she's taken all of our grandparent's photos (hundreds from the late 1800s to current) and made albums for each family member. Every Christmas she adds pages to our albums. She actually took classes to learn how to preserve old photos. These are absolutely priceless. When I was a kid, I would spend hours looking through them when I stayed the summer in Long Island with my grandparents. Great idea about making copies of birth certificates, driver's liscenses, etc. We keep copies in both of our Sentry safes in the house. Just losing a credit card is difficult enough but the entire content of a wallet can take weeks to recover. I also keep copies locked up at the office just in case. You can never be too careful. Another good idea is to take pictures of the contents of each room in your house and store them elsewhere for insurance purposes. It can't replace family photos but can certainly help in other ways if a disaster should occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Carol, What a sad turn of events. Those images were priceless, I know. I've been going through my Mom's photos (I scanned a lot for my aunt's 80th birthday last week). I'd be willing to share family and ancestors with you. I know that's not much of an offer (and your relatives probably look better, too). Any of the other family members have pictures to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted January 22, 2006 Moderators Share Posted January 22, 2006 My sister-in-law lives in Long Beach. Their home was about one mile from the beach. They did not experience a total loss and were able to move back into their home last week. Again, we that live in this area understand completely the devastation you and your family have experienced. It is heart wrenching for all of us every day to see the destruction still remaining. Videos and photographs can not possibly reveal the devastation this region has witnessed courtesy of Hurricane Katrina. Living in this area, witnessing Hurricane Betsy at five years of age and Hurricane Camille in my early teens did not prepare me for the utter devastation of Katrina. The damage along the Gulf Coast of Mississippi is so different from the damage in the New Orleans area, yet both areas were virtually obliterated from the face of the Earth. When visiting my mother-in-law's home in St. Bernard Parish, I actually thought tumbleweed would come rolling through the streets, just like in the old western movies when there was a deserted town. Driving through my hometown of Slidell, Louisiana almost two weeks after the storm left me crying for the losses of so many. Dtel's aunt's home in Slidell had seven feet of water. Eight weeks after Katrina many residents in Slidell still had not returned to their homes. At one point, I found myself feeling guilty that my home was intact when so many others had lost everything. I didn't fully understand why our home was spared until dtel's mom, who is seventy one years old, his sister, niece and nephew came to live with us. I now know why we were spared the devastation. Cluless, again my deepest heartfelt sympathies go out to you and your family. BTW, I also have all of my negatives (27 years accumulation) stored in one plastic container, in a hurried evacuation I would simply grab the negative box and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom3 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hey Dtels' wife, I can relate. I used to live the The Pass on Lang Avenue, behind the "Dixie White House". That and my old house are gone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Here's a picture of my mom's bank. She still hasn't been able to get into her safety deposit box. I'm not sure if they found it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Carol, What a sad turn of events. Those images were priceless, I know. I've been going through my Mom's photos (I scanned a lot for my aunt's 80th birthday last week). I'd be willing to share family and ancestors with you. I know that's not much of an offer (and your relatives probably look better, too). Any of the other family members have pictures to share? Actually a friend of mine has antique pictures of her "ancestors" hanging on the wall. She has no idea who the people are though, she picked up the pictures at a flea market and thought that they were cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myhamish Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Very good topic, Cluless, A number of projects I'm involved include documentation compilation, retrieval and storage. By 'documentation', I am including all aspects of communication - video, photos, documents, audio, multimedia - anything that 'documents' an event. One of my observations is that many people into geneaology and 'roots' history spend a great deal of energy and time researching the past. Most of what is found is a bunch of dry dates and place names with little detail about the subjects themselves . People in the here and now, could spend some time providing documentation (as interpreted above) of the ups and downs of their own current lives. They could prepare this as a package that can be passed down through the generations. There are no guarantees in this world as we all know. Long term storage on DVD-ROM, CD-ROM or hard drives have issues to consider. Nonetheless, compilation of valuable material, storage and periodic updating are steps in the right direction. Here's an article I just wrote for a geneaological magazine in pdf format. Hamish klipsch forum version - edited - play it forward.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hamish, Loved the pdf. I can't agree more. A very good friend of mine is an historian, mostly of the American Civil War, and has a couple of books out. It is the lives of the people and not just the names and dates that make it interesting. I have been trying to compile stories of family, as it is what is exciting. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygmn Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 ygmn. My mom lived a block off the beach in Long Beach Mississippi. The wind didn't do her in, the Levees didn't break and do a number on her property. A 30 foot storm surge came and just pushed her home completely away Know the area well.... Used to drive along 90 to go to Gulfport/biloxi casinos...the sceneic route I called it... Actually have customer in Longbeach....but he is about 1-2 miles south of I10.... A lot of people in that area and West like bay st louis and Waveland....Waveland....man that place is gone......one huge rubble pile...poor poor people who lived there have nothing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 "Don't count on CDs for permanent archiving. Apparently, burned CDs have a surprisingly (to me) short lifespan - just two to five years." If you store burned CDs in a cryogenic chamber, they will virtuall last forever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 ...in Walt Disney's pocket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 My cryogenic chamber is still filled to capacity with holiday leftovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Cool idea! Reminds me of freezing mr. foster's tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Adams Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 boom3 and clueless - What a small world. I grew up (mostly) in Pass Christian and my parents still live on Second St. behind what was a Super Wal-Mart. My parents are fine and didn't suffer any real damage. Sorry to hear about your Mom's loss. dtel - After college I went to work for (then) Martin-Marietta at Michoud (New Orleans east for those not in the know) and lived in Slidell for almost 3 years. I'm sure where I lived (over near Cross Gates subdivision) is gone. My photo protection involves backing up every photo I put on my PC onto two separate jump drives. The wife carries one and I carry the other. Important documents, physical photos, and negatives are centrally stored so all I have to do is grab one lock box and I'm outta there. In fact, I've told the wife that if forced to leave the house due to storm or fire or whatever; we grab the lock box, house keys, PC case, wallet and an armfull of clothes, the dog, and run. She has an "assignment" and so do I. BTW - I wouldn't waste your money on a "fire proof" safe. Yes - fire can't get in, but many provide no protection against heat transfer. IOW - if that box is in a fire and it sees 1500 degrees, you can bet that the internal temperature is close to 900 or 1000 degrees. At that temperature most plastic starts to melt. Paper will survive depending on how high the internal temp gets and how much oxygen is present. So read the fine print and the disclaimers before you buy. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygmn Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 I'm sure where I lived (over near Cross Gates subdivision) is gone. Tom It is fine...Pine trees down....and was pure luck if your house didnot get one through the roof.... no flooding that was major or inhouses from what I heard.... Traffic sucks in Military road though...big time... PS: I live in Slidell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 BTW - I wouldn't waste your money on a "fire proof" safe. Yes - fire can't get in, but many provide no protection against heat transfer. IOW - if that box is in a fire and it sees 1500 degrees, you can bet that the internal temperature is close to 900 or 1000 degrees. At that temperature most plastic starts to melt. Paper will survive depending on how high the internal temp gets and how much oxygen is present. So read the fine print and the disclaimers before you buy. Tom Sentry safes are better design go here for details about how the safe keeps papers safe in fire. And a 1500 degree fire is tremendous. Steel fails at that temperature, and is rarely ever that hot in a house fire. Expect that maybe on the tip of the flame, welders tools, etc but since safes are mostly on floors away from the flametips it never should hit higher than 1000 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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