Duke Spinner Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Klipsch has always been all about manufacturing efficiency and cost reduction. I prefer the word " Cheap " things like the 4 screw , make that 4 wood screws, ...woofer attachment kept me from listening to Klipsch seriously for 25 years whassa T-Nut cost ..back then, what, a nickel ..??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Klipsch has always been all about manufacturing efficiency and cost reduction. I prefer the word " Cheap " things like the 4 screw , make that 4 wood screws, ...woofer attachment kept me from listening to Klipsch seriously for 25 years whassa T-Nut cost ..back then, what, a nickel ..??? Isn't Less Expensive a better term than Cheap..???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Wood Screw's ......is Cheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 ...but then we wouldn't be able to "mod" them with "T" nuts...[] Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 At least it's the right kind of screw. In my '03 Klipschorns the loons used machine screws in the top hat section (home plate top and baffle). At any rate, I don't really see anything wrong with four good wood screws for a K-33 going into plywood -- if it was MDF I'd be worried. 'Cheap' infers inferior quality -- I don't like to use the word unless something is really slipshod or despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Ok..... wood screws are Despicable .... c'mon .. whadda 4 t-Nuts cost... on a $7500 speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Dean said: "'Cheap' infers inferior quality -- I don't like to use the word unless something is really slipshod or despicable." Yes, I have often been called "cheap". I hope that doesn't mean slipshod or dispicable. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 B-3's sound good to me, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Maybe you have a point there Duke. I don't know Bob, maybe it has more to do with how it's said. Some people say I'm a little expensive -- I hope they don't mean I'm ripping people off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhead Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 And after the rebuild. Is that woofer capacitor an electrolytic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Yes, good enough for this job. Cost and size of a 68 uF polypropylene would both be large. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Dag gone, you are cheap -- a 68uF is only $15. The only reason I can think to use one in that part of the circuit is that it might last longer. I just saw your -8dB notation on the schematic, that's interesting. I'm surprised they even bothered changing the cap value for that. Sure don't see how they can claim a 600Hz crossover point with that 3uF cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Dean, Something sort of surprising about the electrolytics that I have taken out of Klipsch crossovers. I have never tested one that actually tested bad. The oldest ones I know of are from the E2 crossovers for Heresy Is. But those things are coming up on 25 years old and all I have seen are still good. Perhaps they came up with a way to seal those things better some time back then that keeps them from drying out. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Bob, I would like to rework my Cornwall II crossovers. Do you or could you sell me all of the components I need to do the rework myself like the one you pictured in the "after the rebuild" picture? Email me at gwolfram05@yahoo.com Thanks, Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Gary, Email sent. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_BQ Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Bob, I own a pair of CW II that I believe were made around 1985/86? Can you please confirm as I have them posted here: http://www.geocities.com/super_bq/Klipsch1.html My problem is it appears that 1 speaker is louder than the other. The mid-range and woofer (I think) sounds about the same for both speakers but on 1 speaker, the tweeter seems to be quite a bit weak. Loss in high freq. response. I do know that lower freq bass sound is harder to identify location (if 1 speaker's woofer is actually less than the other). I've measured the resistance at the speaker terminal posts and both have the same ohm reading. I've not been crafty enough to swap horns around and though, by the age, it could simply be the xover? Please advise. Thanks BQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Well, if you are sure that both tweeters are working, but that one is lower in output than the other, it is time to swap the tweeters to see if problem follows the tweeter or stays with the speaker. If the problem is then still in the speaker, you should start thinking about a crossover problem or a wiring problem. From the label you posted, yours would be 1986 models. Bob Crites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_BQ Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I think i've managed to fix the problem. The crossovers are fine. When I opened 1 speaker, I could not believe the mess job the previous(s) owners did. They must of used acid core solder because the wire at the terminals corroded green. This was done to all 3 drivers. The other speaker I noticed the tweeter diaphragm measured 6.8 ohms. I have some new diaphragms which measure around 8.4 ohms. The other speaker tweeter also measured around 8.4 ohms so I replaced it with the proper one. I suppose this is the problem when buying 2nd hand. You have NO IDEA what kind of patch / mod jobs previous owners have done. If only speakers were as collectable as classic cars. Enthusiasts only want things original... BQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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