garymd Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Man, I haven't even looked inside my BBX. One of these days I'll have to have a peek. So, how much do those ECC801s go for? Anyone got a "loaner?" [] 1st question: About $140. 2nd question: No. Don't worry about it Fini. It's all in my head. How much difference can 2% make anyway?[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I doubt if any two people hearing the same difference would quantify it exactly the same way. Even if they perceived the difference to be the exact same amount in their heads, one guy might say "That's TEN TIMES better" while the other guy might say "That's 5% better." In the rarefied world of the audiophile, 1/10 of a percent is worth doing. How can differences be quantified? Nobody is using any scale, let alone the same scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 OK, I won't look in there. [] I'm embarassed to say I haven't even fired up my system in weeks. Nose to the grindstone, workin' 12/7... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I agree with both of you (Mark and Paul). It took me a while to discover that for my purposes, the V1 12AT7 is the one that really matters. You REALLY can hear a difference with vinyl. I'm guilty of spending too much money to ultimately discover that for my purposes, the 6DJ8 just doesn't matter all that much unless you have a noisy tube in that slot. Like I said, a quiet $5 6DJ8 will sound worlds better than a noisy $200 Cca. Until you find that nice, quiet 6DJ8, forget about evaluating the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Good reading fellas... I have the same ECC801S in the V1 slot as Gary and am using it with a Denon DL-103. Certainly not in Gary's league, but the combination sounds yummy to me! Very vibrant, alive and full of detail. At least to my ears.... ymmv Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I agree...very helpful to the Tube newbie in me...Thanks! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 21, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted September 21, 2006 Some really great info guys. I have my tube broker searching his warehouse now for some of these tubes and I hope I will get lucky enough for him to acually have some of them. I probably kept Mark too busy on having to reply to this thread and so it is going to take an extra day or two to get it, but I figure it is worth it since he explained how things work upstream and downstream from each tube. I lot of great information from everyone, I really appreciate it. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowntnbkr Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I have been looking to get a ecc801s and seems to be somewhat difficult. I found one at a place in Upland, Ca., but they were so rude I wont buy anything from them. Then the guy told me that the ecc801 was not a good tube to put in that slot. I told him that even the guy (Mark, but didn't use names) that makes the unit said it was good and the guy basically told me I was full of &hit!! So I will continue to look and be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 22, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have been looking to get a ecc801s and seems to be somewhat difficult. I found one at a place in Upland, Ca., but they were so rude I wont buy anything from them. Then the guy told me that the ecc801 was not a good tube to put in that slot. I told him that even the guy (Mark, but didn't use names) that makes the unit said it was good and the guy basically told me I was full of &hit!! So I will continue to look and be patient. I will let you know what my tube guy comes up with and will pass along the information. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I bought one from this guy for $125 sealed. That was about a year ago. He seems to be honest. http://cgi.ebay.com/TELEFUNKEN-ECC801S-12AT7-E81CC-ECC81-DIAMOND-PAIR-NOS_W0QQitemZ260032262790QQihZ016QQcategoryZ67816QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have been looking to get a ecc801s and seems to be somewhat difficult. I found one at a place in Upland, Ca., but they were so rude I wont buy anything from them. Then the guy told me that the ecc801 was not a good tube to put in that slot. I told him that even the guy (Mark, but didn't use names) that makes the unit said it was good and the guy basically told me I was full of &hit!! So I will continue to look and be patient. Kevin, at Upscale Audio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowntnbkr Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Not specifically, but one of his cronies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 22, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted September 22, 2006 I bought one from this guy for $125 sealed. That was about a year ago. He seems to be honest. http://cgi.ebay.com/TELEFUNKEN-ECC801S-12AT7-E81CC-ECC81-DIAMOND-PAIR-NOS_W0QQitemZ260032262790QQihZ016QQcategoryZ67816QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Do those tubes look to be slightly used to you? The bottoms don't appear to be clear glass, a bit smokey. It may just be the photo. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 The one I bought from him was brand new. I'd email him first. Yeah, those look used but tested as new. I suppose it all depends on what you're willing to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 22, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted September 22, 2006 He lists them as NOS, but I think you are right, best to check with him directly. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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