Roc Rinaldi Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I am collecting numerous forte IIs. What is the recommendation as to whether 15 - 17 year old forte IIs need anything done to them in the form of upgrades? The ones that I currently have sound just great the way that they are so does the age really matter? Are there any materials that were used that would definitely have deteriorated by now or am I OK for now if they continue to sound great? If I am OK now, then how old must the speakers be as to when I should consider any upgrades, and what would those upgrades be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Bob Crites will tell you (perhaps not now that I have invoked his name without the express written permission of Major League Baseball) that the crossovers in our "extended" Heritage speakers were pretty bad right from the git go so...I haven't as yet replaced my 13-15 year old Quartet crossovers but... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I have Forte II, and Quartets (all these are about the same era as yours) and love them. I don't feel any compulsion to change anything. It is true that the Heritage series, at least the older ones, use the the paper in oil caps. Some of them are coming up on the half-century mark. People report improvements in replacing them. I can't take a position on that, never having done it. It is, though, a much different cap than what you have. Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Rinaldi Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Yeah, I think my approach is going to be "When I finally hear something is wrong, then I will get it fixed or replaced." Until then, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I would really disagree on leaving the crossovers untouched on the Forte, Forte II, Chorus, Heresy II and others that have the crossover built on the input terminal block. Two problems with those. 1. They mounted heavy components on the plastic block. Over time I am seeing more and more of those with the heavy autotransformer just broken off and hanging by the wires. 2. The little caps they used are much cheaper than those used in earlier Klispch designs and (in my opinion) needed replacement before they left the factory. Bob Crites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Rinaldi Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 So Bob, you feel that I should have my cross-overs replaced? Are the caps separate or part of the cross-overs? Who do you recommend that I get new cross-overs from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Roc, I don't have a Forte II crossover here, but I will attach a picture of a Forte 1 crossover. The Forte II is probably a lot like this one only perhaps it has a circuit board for the parts and so may look a bit better. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Here is what I like to do with the Forte crossover. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Rinaldi Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 WOW. Looks mighty fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundbound Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Bob, Do you build and sell crossovers for Chorus II? If so, at what cost per pair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 My Forte II's sound great as is. I'm leaving mine alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Bob, Do you build and sell crossovers for Chorus II? If so, at what cost per pair? I haven't built new crossovers for the Chorus II yet, but could do it. Send me an email if you are interested in them. Bob Crites bobcrites@mac.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale A B Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I've got H2's & F2's, and if they were the only speakers I had, I'd probably upgrade a pair.......But at least you got me thinkin' about it again...NP...Bob Dylan - Love & Theft.............................................................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Roc and others: I provide reaplacement networks for the Academy, Chorus I and II, Forte I and II, Heresy, KLF-C7, KLF-20 and KLF-30 (called the K-stack); please write me for information. Many, many folks here have used these and are very happy with the results. Here is a picture of my K-stack Forte II network beside an original network; the differences are obvious, and the change in sound quality is remarkable. I have additional pictures if anyone is interested, or search on the forum for a history on the topic of "K-stack". Chris Munson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 You should post your email address Chris. PM's and emails through the forum are very hit and miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Dean: Thanks for saying so, you are right! I need to get a better email, but for now, it's munsonjulie@sbcglobal.net. Here's another pic of Forte II networks. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Rinaldi Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 But how old does a Klipsch speaker have to be in order to require any upgrades to the materials used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 But how old does a Klipsch speaker have to be in order to require any upgrades to the materials used? Half of my work is doing RF-7's and few others out of the Reference line which use epoxy coated oval polypropylene capacitors -- which I replace with Kimber capacitors. All of those speakers are relatively new. Forte, Forte II, Chorus, Chorus II, Heresy II, and all of the KLF speakers use mylar capacitors, and I personally think all of those speakers benefit from the use of higher quality polypropylene types. Sometimes the age of the speaker mandates substitution of the older parts, but my opinon is that all speakers regardless of age respond favorably to part upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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