InVeNtOr Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 i have the ksw-12 sub. i am building a media room and i would like some input on the placement of the sub. VISUALLY i would like to place the sub behind the chairs so i don't SEE it. the only down fall to that is buying the 60' sub cable (around $300). do you get a better feel of the sub if it is placed front center, front right (or left), or behind you? i would think behind you it would FEEL better (maybe just louder). this is something i don't want to have to do twice, because i would have to buy the cable and then run it. input would be appreciated, thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I think you could probably find a nice sub cable that costs a lot less than $300. A sub's placement in the room is critical to how loud it sounds and how well it blends with the other speakers and how it interacts with the room itself. There's no way to know what setup is best unless you try experimenting with different places. Putting it in a corner will increase the output quite a bit but the tradeoff is that many times it will sound too boomy or will create large peaks and valleys in the lower bass frequency range. Do you have a entertainment center that you could place it behind or beside so that it wasn't as noticeable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 i was afraid of that answer. no i will have a 3d pic of the room up in a little while. it's all open. the sub can go beside the et center but you will see the et center is very small. so there is really no real way to tell where it should go. i gave an estimate of $300 because the cable is $35 for 6' and i would need almost 60.' i would only get that cable from cable solutions or blue jeans. they both sell great stuff. i won't buy anthing but canare cables anyway. i guess i just might have to get a real price quote from one of the companys and see how much it is worth to have it behind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 i called cable solutions, it will cost me less than $100 for a 60' cable including shipping. i think it will be behind me! i'll let you know how it feels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BobG Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 placing the sub behind you is not generally a good spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Out of the 5 or 6 places I tried my old sub, behind me was the absoloute worst. Could not get it to blend worth a hoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake_mooney Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Generally, placing the sub behind you is the least accurate sounding, and all around the worst place. Generally speaking, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 I also tried to put my sub behind the couch. My son's 7 months old now,and he keeps messing with the knob on the side. It sounded................. bad. It stayed behind there for about 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhendrix Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 My friend used this cable from monoprice.com for a KSW-12 in the rear of his room. RG-6 and seemed well built. Only $12.00 for 50'. You could try it with a 50' and a 12' with a coupler. If you don't like it, you have 3 weeks to send it back for full refund and no restocking fee. Mr friend's works great. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023602&p_id=2684&seq=1&format=2&style= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 I bought a 20' cable from them...bout as cheap as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 i should check on my own treads more often. after a voyage to EQ's house and some discussions with him and falcon, i quickly realize, along with you fine gentleman, the sub behind (directly is a bad idea). it is still going in the rear of the room but near the et center in the corner. that way i should get a better sound out of it. it will also allow for a shorter cable which should save me some money. thanks guys for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 David check momoprice, those cables are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcott Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 i have the ksw-12 sub. i am building a media room and i would like some input on the placement of the sub. VISUALLY i would like to place the sub behind the chairs so i don't SEE it. the only down fall to that is buying the 60' sub cable (around $300). do you get a better feel of the sub if it is placed front center, front right (or left), or behind you? i would think behind you it would FEEL better (maybe just louder). this is something i don't want to have to do twice, because i would have to buy the cable and then run it. input would be appreciated, thanks again Not everyone agrees with the following white papers but there are some strong arguements for their suggestions. Its a good read and there are other good white papers here that are discussed in relatively plain English. Hope this helps. http://www.harman.com/about_harman/technology_leadership.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 i looked at monoprice, does anyone know what type of manufacture makes the RCA connectors? are they crimp or solder? if someone knows, let me know please or i will call them monday morning to find out. i am a big canare fan because the connectors are crimp and from working on aircraft, crimp connectors will always beat solder, especially when you add time to the equation. west, i looked at those white pages. i don't have the money for 4 subs but 2 might be possable. according to their research, for 2 subs they suggest one dead front and back. i am looking into getting svs's subs. if i have to put one dead center front, then the tube design is out, i might go for the square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcott Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 i looked at monoprice, does anyone know what type of manufacture makes the RCA connectors? are they crimp or solder? if someone knows, let me know please or i will call them monday morning to find out. i am a big canare fan because the connectors are crimp and from working on aircraft, crimp connectors will always beat solder, especially when you add time to the equation. west, i looked at those white pages. i don't have the money for 4 subs but 2 might be possable. according to their research, for 2 subs they suggest one dead front and back. i am looking into getting svs's subs. if i have to put one dead center front, then the tube design is out, i might go for the square. Blue Jean Cables uses Beldin Cable with Canare connectors. Many of us use their cables and they are fairly priced. Great service and broadcast quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 those are the cables i have now. i love them. i think they work very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwwrig Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I used Monoprice cables when I built my HT and have not regretted it. Unfortunately at the time I had a subwoofer monster cable (before I became loyal to monoprice) that I ran backwards. I did not think it mattered which way a rca connection was headed, but with that monster cable it did. I already had the sheet rock up as well. Can we say live and learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mas Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I think what is happening here is that because low frequency sources are generally regarded as omnidirectional (ideally), that the source is not localizeable...Two very different things. Oh, and in direct answer to the stated question, I would place it on the floor. [] I would put in on the front wall, on the floor, cognizant of its distance to the wall and to the listening position for both loading, reflective superposition, and signal alignment with the mains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcott Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Here is a link that may help you. Without a bunch of sophisticated measuring devices and theory, the bass crawl is always a good place to start. Here is another, more simplified link that should get you started. http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/ I think the title is bass placement part 1 to get you started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 those are the cables i have now. i love them. i think they work very well. I have all bluejeans myself except for that long sub cable from monoprice. Hard to beat $12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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