Agreed 100%. However, I have compared the RW-12d to a few Internet direct subs, it easily held its own. I also own the bic pl-200, fantastic sub as well, the two best subs in their price range. I will say, the RW-12d certainly goes much lower than the specs, mine goes down to about 16hz in room usable response. I do have it running with the bic pl-200, so I'm sure that helps. I was able to get 19hz with authority with just the klipsch though.