scott0527 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 It's easy to replace the bearing plate as well as the ball in the spindle with a kit from Schopper available online for about $90. I see some cheaper kits on Ebay now. I'm not sure if they're any good or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 By the way, the Schopper ball bearing and plate kit works GREAT. Gary's table is a smooth and quiet as can be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 I have built up three TD-124s over the past 15 years and all three had VERY minor wear to the lower plate that I was able to polish to a mirror finish with crocus cloth. The wear on the one in your picture is AMAZING. I can't imagine how the table must have sounded! In talking with other TD-124 owners I think I have just been very lucky with the tables I have come across--probably very lightly used examples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Unless you physically inspect the thrust plate, how do you know when excessive wear is present? What are the telltale signs or indicators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 My wife just called and I have 3 boxes sitting in my foyer. Are you home tonight Allan? I might be too impatient to wait until Sunday!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Sounds like a fun weekend for Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 My wife just called and I have 3 boxes sitting in my foyer. Are you home tonight Allan? I might be too impatient to wait until Sunday!! Sure! I should be home around 10:00-10:30 your time!! Call me any time . . . Or call me on my mobile if you're chomping at the bit BEFORE then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I'll get things organized before I call. I'd like to get started around 9:00 my time. I'll call your cell if it's before 10:00. I guess I'll put it together up in the den. I'll spend more time redialing your number if I do it in the basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 So Allan, can you tell if anything is missing?[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Close up of the last picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 It shouldn't take more than 45 minutes to get the thing playing music!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mobile 1 oil,..... I LOVE IT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mobile 1 oil,..... I LOVE IT!!! Great stuff. I've never used in a car, but in a TD124 it ROCKS. I just cant pay that much for oil for the car. I change it every 2500 miles and the cost would drive me up the WALL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Step 1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Step 2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Ah, screw the rest of the steps. It's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwhaples Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mobile 1 oil,..... I LOVE IT!!! Gotta Love it for sure! Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 So, what's the first LP your're slappin' on that platter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Unless you physically inspect the thrust plate, how do you know when excessive wear is present? What are the telltale signs or indicators? Speed problems. Rumble, noise in general. Any turntable with friction in the bearing is cause for concern. It's really easy to inspect though. Pull the platter out, peek in the well with a flashlight. You can see the spot on the thrust plate where the ball sits quite easily. I think the bigger divets like in the picture came from people's poor handling of the turntable over the years, not so much normal wear. These platters are so heavy, and the entire weight of the platter sits on this little ball bearing. I can see people moving these tables around over the yeasrs. Lifting here, plunking it down there. Two or three plunks and you can wind up with a thrust plate like pictured above. While I'm at it, the other serious problem I've encountered with these tables is a motor that runs like glue and/or once it is warmed up and running, is noisy as hell. Interesting thing, these motors has a very similar thrust plate in the bottom that the motor spindle rides on. Like a mini version of the main bearing. The motor spindle has a tiny little ball bearing in the bottom of it that rides on a flat thrust plate. The trust plate here can be diveted as well. That's a source for noise. And I have also found that by disassembling and cleaning the bearings that house the motor shaft, these tables can come up to speed much quicker than often reported. I think you can see the bottom of the motor spindle and the ball bearing in this picture... doesn't look all that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 But when you get inside that sealed up sandwich of a bearing that the shaft rides in... it can be pretty ugly. I would totally clean and degrease these parts and relube them. The Schopper kit also included a ball and thrust plate for the motor. Rivet it back together and this motor ran like a charm. If anyone attempts this... Make sure you don't screw the motor back together too tight. The 4 screws that hold everything together. Too tight and the motor won't turn. Too loose and you'll have too much play. Have to do a Goldilocks thing and get it just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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