Ray_pierrewit Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I've been living and learning with my 1975 Lascalas for the lastmonth now and I find them... interesting and engaging. They recentlyopened WAY up after changing from a 70s Sherwood receiver to the TrendsTA10.1, it's quite promising. Much better seperation and imaging withless opacity(???). I really hope to have found a speaker that canfollow me around for the next long while. On that subject, I'dlike to hear from people who have had Lascalas for a long time. Howlong have you had them? What kind of amps/sources have they outlasted?What mods have been done to make them better or more attractive(I've seen a few veneer jobs that are amazing)? Also, I'd likeopinions on placement, more specifically the distance between the backwall and the speakers. I'm still experimenting with their placement,for the moment they are roughly 24" from the back wall and I find thatbass might be a bit compromised at that distance. What have you guysfound is a good distance to maximise soundstage and bass? Toe-in or not(they are center to center 8' apart from one another and the listeningchair is equivalent)? Hockey pucks or 2x4s wrapped in a towel oranything underneath? I know these are all rather subjective but I'dlike to hear from experts who have lived with them for a long time,maybe find some short cuts... Thanks for any imput, dna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 "they are center to center 8' apart from one another and the listening chair is equivalent" Sounds like a small room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_pierrewit Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Actually, it's about 15' x 20', but there it's adining/living/reading room all combined so I can't really place themany further apart for the time being... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 So room is 15X20, but speakers are 8ft apart and your listening position is 8ft from centerline of both speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_pierrewit Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yeah, that about sums up the placement I've got so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 That means you and your speakers form an equilateral triangle, with the speakers 60 degrees apart, which is a good starting point for stereo imaging. Are they roughly equal distances from the side walls? As for toeing in, having the speakers face you directly, so you're on-axis, gives good sound in most rooms. I use a laser level to aim the speakers, which saves a lot of measuring and running back and forth. After some experimenting, I placed my La Scalas fairly close to the front wall. They're angled toward the listening position, so the inner corners are nearest to the front wall, about 5" away, while the outer corners are about 15" away. Placing them closer to the wall than that gave uneven bass response, while moving them further out into the room gave no improvement, but did take up lots more space. You won't get really deep bass with La Scalas, so most owners add a sub. A La Scala and sub combination can sound really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkrop Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Rubber (rubber like) furniture casters to couple the corners to the floor is a cheap tweek if you have no carpet under them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The little Trends guy is a good sounding amp. First priority I'd suggest is to get fresh caps in your crossovers. After thirty plus years, they are off spec. You will be amazed at the sound returned, essentially, to factory spec. Doesn't cost much to accomplish either. IMO that's the single most important and cost effective improvement you can make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I think bracing the side panels (like Klipsch did with the Lascala II) would be an approach I'd consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I don't like to put mine too far apart. 60 degrees seems too wide to my ears, I Iike them about 45 degrees apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaco_EL34 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 How are they braced. Looking at a pic of the LaScala II, I do not see anything obvious. I have another question. What is the nominal impedance of 1976 pair of LaScalas? I know the specs on the website say 8 ohms, but I wondered it there was a more "real-world" answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaco_EL34 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 What brand ant type of capacitor do you recommend? Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 How are they braced. Looking at a pic of the LaScala II I think they braced them by making them out of 1" MDF instead of 3/4" plywood. I've been told (by Jim Hunter, among others) that if you can tame the sidewalls from resonating your LaScalas will sound more like the LaScala II's (go deeper). I've owned a pair of them since 1979 and it took about 3 nanoseconds to tell the difference the stiffer sidewalls made (it's a good difference). You can evidently, brace them by adding little wedges in the mouth, between the cone & sidewalls or maybe you could glue/screw another panel on the outside of them if you are not worried about asthetics. There are some pictures here of the wedges but I'm not sure where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 The Peavey FH-1 did this.. Here is the info to help you.. Inside braces... http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80301013.pdfNot so sure how to brace the outsides? I guess glue and screw wood into the outside sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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