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JJ, You can see the Scott amps and Heritage speakers I have. If you are interested in a top performing tube integrated, you are definitely on the right track with your selections. I think the LK-72 is a great partner for the heresy (and also the LaScala) primarily because of the bass output. Nice power too. I would also consider the EL-84 amps (222 and 299, cheaper tubes). I also highly recommend NOS Valves (Craig) for the rebuild. You should just accept the fact that any of these 40 year old amps need it. Everyone on this forum had their vntage integrateds rebuilt one way or another. My 222 and 299 were rebuilt over a year ago and it is like a night and day difference. IN fact my LK-72 is on the way home from a NOS Valves rebuild right now. NOS Valves has a great reputation for rebuilding these vintage amps, backing up the work, and especially for modifications that enhance sound with Klipsch speakers. Go for it.

I am looking to touch up my LaScalas. What's the secret here to match as closely as possible? Does Klipsch sell a matching black lacquer touch up kit? What should I use? I can see the previous owner touched up a couple of tiny spots and it didn't match. Thanks

I went along with the gang and got a SONY SCD-C222ES a few months ago. You can find "rebuilt/Remanned" models from authorized SONY dealers on ebay, or another route is to try HiFi Buys. I was able to get mine for under $300. The guys at hifi buys searched all their stores and found me one, had it shipped in and gave the usual 5 year warranty. So, they can be found along with the 333, and 555 for good prices. But...my 222 quit working and had to go back for a repair after about 2 months. They couldn't fix it, and sent me a new one. Same thing happened to GaryMDs 555. We both received new units (I believe Gary did), and got the 5 year warranty. So, they broke, but they were backed up. Nice to know. The only other comments are that the one I have doesn't play DVDs, and both units I have had had a noisy drive mechanism if that matters. And, you can't listen to a CD while you change the others out. When mine was in the shop they gave me a Denon SACD loaner unit. I can't remember the model but more user friendly for sure. The SONY clearly sounded better, but the SONY has weird usability. Not as intuitive as it could be. If it's playing and then you hit the skip disk button it won't play the next disk until you push the play button. Stuff like that. But, it does sound noticeably better than the comperable Denon SACD player (to me). For what it's all worth.

J, I haven't had the tuner aligned, but the stations come in on the dial where they are supposed to be. Not hard at all to tune with the dial because there is a tuning / signal strength indicator to show when a particular station is dialed in as best it can be.

I have a Scott 350B tuner and use it with both my 222 and 299 integrateds. It sounds great, pulls in the stations and holds them all weekend long with no adjusting. I am just using a cheap dipole antenna. I can't compare to other vintage tube tuners, but the 350B is pretty nice. One good feature is that it has indpendent output adjustments for each channel for balancing into the amp.

Mark, I have been riding motorcycles since I was a kid. I'm with you, I don't understand the fascination with the noise thing. I actually hate drawing attention to myself when I ride. But to go even further, I always "test my yard" when I get the upstairs or downstairs systems cranking on the weekend. Especially since I moved the LaScalas upstairs. They are much louder than the corns. By "test the yard" I mean I actually go outside my house and walk around my yard to try and determine if the neighbors will be knocking (or the cops showing up) due to the music levels. Just common courtesy as well, and an education for me on how loud I KNOW I can go without expecting trouble. And it's plenty loud. No problem. I hope to find out this weekend how this translates into SPL. I never measured it before, and I always wanted to know. I should have my Rat Shack meter later today.

The pair I have now are 31 years old, and I have done nothing to them electronically except tighten screws, and verify phase. I have a pretty new pair of mint LaScalas that are only 14 years old to benchmark against, and the corns are surely still functioning perfectly. When I'm gone, my kids will have all my Heritage speakers, and then their kids probably will have them after that. No telling when the end will come for them.

Nice job moderators.

How did you mount them? I only see what looks to be 1 hole. They look very nice.

I agree that I'd have to see, touch, and hear them first. That's allot of dough for a pair of Klipsch.

As many here have seen and heard by experience, it is really not fair to say any particular model bests another. AS we know there is a wide variablity among how a single particular model itself can sound depending on how it's components have been matched, who rebuilt it, etc. I assume we are not talking stock units here. I am sure that all our Scott 299s don't sound exactly the same depending on what components were chosen for the rebuilds, and which tech rebuilt them. And I'm sure all those same models of Macs out there can sound pretty different too.

OK, this is a perfect week for me to try out this stuff. I too like Lynn have never measured SPL. But I have had Klipsch Heritage products for 25 years and trust me they get used more than adequately. It would be nice to know how hard I have been using them. How much is a Rat Shack SPL meter? Any particular model more useful than another? Thanks

Yup, You can add me to the list that agrees with using the older verts in the horizontal position. I've always done that where it was appropriate in the various homes and rooms I've used them in over the years. An excellent way to use the vert corns. I have never used a corn for dedicated center channel, but I'm moving in that direction once I get my LK-72 back from Craig.

Just kidding Amy

Well, let's just say it's a long story that I hope I won't have to tell. I guess we'll see. Anyhow, it probably would end up getting erased by Amy cause it's not pretty. So, I'll try to show some restraint and wait until she's out on maternity leave.

Hey Craig, Enough of this crap. Please get back to work and finish Re-Rebuilding my LK-72. By the way, I would like you to return my GoodAll caps. They are valuable.

Smilin, Sounds like you did all you could. Being strong at a time like this is low priority. Just be who you are. I'm sure your mom is proud of you.

IB, I always noticed more bass when I laid my verts down. I never really experimented with it that much. I attributed the increase in bass due to more of the speaker being coupled to the floor. But you bring up an interesting comment about risers. More bass without risers, makes sense to me since the speaker sits flush on the floor, thus better coupling. Well, my '73 verts have risers. Maybe that's why they make more bass when laying down. I never took the risers off to see how they sound upright without risers. Maybe I would get the best bass in that configuration. Anyone have any ideas about this? Thanks

First, welcome to the forum. Second, you are correct that the horns were verts, then went to horiz before the 2s came out. Some others can chime in with dates. I have owned both configurations of 1s. The only real difference is that you can lay down the verts so the cabinets lay horizontally on the floor. Mostly for convenience but also to give slightly more bass output.

Just like when the satellite company came in and said this remote replaces all those. Operates everything from here. Yeah right. I have one to turn on the TV and operate setup parameters, one to operate satellite receiver, one to operate HT system for sound, One for the DVD player and parameters, one for the VCR and parameters. In my house there is one sofa seat that has all the remotes on the arm, and that seat is commonly referred to as the "control tower". I also have a remote for my Sony 222. Thank God all my 2 channel equipment was built before anyone ever thought of remote control, or there'd be several more of them.

Am I correct in saying that the serial #s are stamped into the wood on those models? Not sure. But great price.

Cool, just like a fly swatter.

Some Big Beers?

That giant tube looks like the electric meter on the outside of my house.